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Updates
Crypto.com (CDC) changes things up (promotions, earning rates, staking levels, …) at a quick pace, so as a warning the deal you have today may be gone tomorrow. The following are some recent updates:
November 2020 Update
Referral Program Devaluation
The referral bonus has dropped from $50 on both sides (referrer/referee) to only $25 on both sides [source]
CRO Devaluation
The value of CRO has dropped significantly ($0.08566 on 2020-11-01 [this is about half of its value in early August]). Of course this is a big loss if you invested heavily in the CRO token.
However, it did temporarily make the card a better deal. [As noted by Kno010] the total value of the referral program (both sides referrer/referree) was enough to cover the full cost of the Ruby card.
This didn’t last long as Crypto.com devalued the referral program as noted above. They also devalued CRO [per CuddleBunnies_ logic] by increasing the staking size for the cards:
Cashback Clawbacks
There have also been reports of cashback clawbacks (link #1, link #2) for various categories of debit card spend.
August 2020 Update
MCO Token Being Eliminated
Crypto.com is eliminating the MCO token and requiring a swap from the MCO token to the CRO token. The coin swap must be completed by November 2, 2020.
- The conversion price was based on the average USD price of the two tokens over the last 30 days, 1 MCO will convert to 27.6439 CRO
- If you swap before September 2, 2020 you will receive a 20% bonus, 1 MCO will convert to 33.1726 CRO
- But the 20% bonus is placed in a 3 month Earn Deposit (locked and earns interest).
- If you swap before September 2, 2020 you will receive a 20% bonus, 1 MCO will convert to 33.1726 CRO
- The card benefits are now based on CRO staking levels [note these staking levels are now out of date]
- (As of 2020-08-04) CRO trades at $0.169518, so a 1,000 CRO stake would cost $169.52
- All MCO values must be replaced with CRO values in the post below, including the referral program which is now $50 in CRO
Special Warning Section
Cryptocurrency purchasing/staking is a risky endeavor where you could potentially lose your whole stake/investment. We tried to outline some of the risks here, but please don’t consider this post as any form of advice.
Some Crypto.com (CDC) products may be even riskier than the average risky cryptocurrency deal. CDC is a small, private, foreign company that provides limited transparency into its financial condition.
All that said, Crypto.com has successfully launched a number of products, some of which may be of interest to some members of the DoC Community.
Overview
Crypto.com (CDC) offers a lot of products, it’s sort of its own crypto ecosystem. We’ll take a look at a few of their products:
- App [Crypto Purchasing App]
- Cards [Reward Debit Cards] (requires App)
- Earn [Crypto Interest Earning Account] (requires App)
And save the rest for another day: Credit [borrow money with crypto collateral], Exchange [crypto trading exchange], Invest [crypto robo advisor], Pay, ….
App
The CDC App is a cryptocurrency app that allows you to purchase, sell, send, and receive cryptocurrencies.
BG50 Referral Program
DoC Community Referral Page | Direct Link
[Important Note: The referral program is now only worth $25, the calculations below are based on the old $50 program]
The App is marketed with a referral offer:
Sign up through a referral link and complete KYC to earn $50 USD equivalent of MCO tokens when you stake 50 MCO tokens for 6 months.
(Trying to) Value the Referral Bonus
The BG50 referral offer is more complex than a lot of the referral offers that we come across, let’s see if we can get some sense of its value.
The current price of an MCO coin is $5.19 (@2020-05-10), so to stake 50 MCO we would need to invest $259.50 (50 MCO x $5.19/MCO).
As soon as we buy our 50 MCO stake, the $50 bonus is unlocked, so that’s nice to have, but our $259.50 is locked in MCO tokens for 6 months. And cryptocurrencies (including MCO tokens) are quite volatile, the price might go up, but it could also crash (even die completely).
It would be nice if we could purchase an option to sell our MCO tokens in six months at a price that would allow us to lock in a portion of the bonus today. Unfortunately, I don’t know of an exchange that offers this option [but I’m not a crypto trader, if anyone does know would be very interested to learn about it in the comments].
Without a market to buy an option to hedge our risk, maybe we can still estimate what the cost would be. I downloaded the last 6 months of daily closing prices for MCO from CoinMarketCap and then fed them into a historic volatility calculator to get a 91.53% annualized volatility number (in comparison downloading the same six month period for SPY [S&P 500] returned a 43.4% number). I plugged the 91.53% volatility number into a Black-Scholes option calculator (6 months [0.5 years], $5.19 spot and strike price, 0% risk free rate) and got a put price of $1.23, for a total cost of $61.50 ($1.23/MCO x 50 MCO). That’s pretty costly, if the Black-Scholes model is appropriate (and if I did the math correctly), it would cost us more to lock in the bonus than the bonus is worth!
So that gives me pause, our investment is risky, to risky for an arbitrage trade. It might still be a value trade (as we are getting a large discount on MCO tokens with the bonus) if we have some confidence in the stability/growth of the CDC platform, but we’ll definitely have to accept risk. Maybe we can get more value from our investment (see the Cards section below).
[Expired] No Fee Credit Card Purchase Promotion
CDC is currently running a promotion:
The 3.5% credit card purchase fee is waived for crypto purchases through June 2020 extended through September 2020
(Just like you) I instantly had visions of earning many points and miles for free [and with no need to haul those US Mint coins back to the bank, I could just sell my USD stable coins from home 🙂 ].
But for US users it seems like this promotion is almost impossible to take advantage of because there are so many barriers:
- Many (if not all) US credit cards are blocked
- By the App,
- By the payment network,
- By an unimplemented security feature (like 3DS?),
- or by the card issuer
- If you can get past the block it looks like even the pre-auth may flag as a cash advance
- And your card will also be liable for foreign transaction fees (if applicable)
I think if you could get something working, you definitely will have found a unicorn [if interested, I collected a few data points from r/Crypto_com in this Google sheet]
Some mention using Apple Cash to load, and others have had success with the Charles Schwab or SoFi debit cards to avoid foreign transaction fees. ACH should also work with no fee.
App Notes
- (Spread) CDC advertises the App as a place to purchase crypto at true cost, but I’m not sure you’re getting the best price. Seems like a lot of reports of fairly large spreads when buying/selling within the App. The workaround often mentioned is to purchase MCO through an exchange.
Cards
CDC offers a range of Visa debit cards (based on your CRO stake size), here’s the summary graphic:
The most interesting part to me is the cashback rate on the debit cards. A no-stake (no investment) version of the card earns 1% back, while a 50 MCO stake (as part of the BG50 referral program) earns 2% back.
Important Cashback Notes:
- The cashback is provided in MCO Tokens. They note the cashback is credited instantly on purchase, but the value of the cashback will float with the price of MCO until you sell your tokens.
- While cashback is provided on all debit card purchases (assuming PIN based too), the terms specifically void cashback on the following purchases:
- MCO Rewards are paid in MCO Token to your Wallet App. Transactions on digital wallets, digital banking services, crypto exchanges, stored value products, money remittance services are excluded from the MCO Rewards programme.
- The debit cards are prepaid cards and CDC’s banking partner in the US is Metropolitan Commercial Bank
- There are monthly purchase limits based on card tier (sorry they are not listed online)
- It is currently a $15,000 monthly POS spend limit on the no stake card and a $25,000 monthly POS spend limit on the staked cards
- All the limits are available within the Fees & Limits section of the app
The cards provide other benefits (Spotify, Netflix, …) depending on the staking level as highlighted in the graphic. More detail on the benefits is available here:
The cards come with no setup, shipping, monthly, or annual fees. [If you close the card it’s recommended to first drop your balance to zero]
(Trying to) Value the Debit Card Cash Back
Doing the BG50 referral program and staking the 50 MCO qualified me for the 2% cashback debit card, if I ignore the MCO stake and the bonus:
- Just on debit card cash back I could get to breakeven with about $12,500 of spend ($250/0.02)
If I did a more thorough analysis, I might take into account
- Opportunity cost of the spend. [My plan is to add additional spend that I wasn’t previously going to complete and hopefully won’t be to difficult to do (but not too much)]
- The price movement of the MCO tokens. [I’ll try and cash out regularly] [DC notes minimum cash out at 4.5 MCO]
- Any spread when selling the MCO tokens
[Expired] Special Measures Promotion
As part of the special measures promotion through June 2020 extended through September 2020. CDC is offering additional cashback on food and grocery spend:
- 5% up to $25 per month on the no stake card
- 10% up to $50 per month on the staked cards
[IKS notes that Walmart purchases are not automatically receiving the 10% back]
Earn
Earn is CDC’s interest earning account for crypto deposits. These are the current rates:
Important Earn Notes:
- Interest in paid in the same currency deposited (BTC -> BTC, USDC -> USDC, …)
- Interest is simple daily interest (not compounded) paid weekly
- There are minimums and maximums detailed in the FAQ
(Trying to) Value the Earn Product
When comparing the Crypto.com Earn product apples to apples to other crypto interest earning accounts, Earn offers worse rates – only 6% (on stable coins for instance) vs. the current 8%+ rates on other platforms (like BlockFi and Celsius) for the same flexible (withdrawal whenever you like), no staking required account [not even taking compounding into account]. [We looked at Crypto Interest Earning Accounts in this post]
But the Earn product does offer value by providing longer dated term options (which allows you to lock in a rate for a longer duration). It could also provide another valuable option to diversify your crypto investment, and if you can get value from the higher stake sizes.
More Information
Company Information
- Original Funding: a $26.7M ICO (Inital Coin Offering) in June 2017
- Offices: Hong Kong, Singapore (plus more [Bulgaria, China, …] based on their jobs board)
- Market Cap: $85M per Coinmarketcap (@2020-05-11, the #63 ranked cryptocurrency)
- User Count: Global user count of 2M+ [not sure on the quality of the user count, per this reasoning]
Tax Notes
- Information on 1099-K fillings (generally $20,000 USD and 200 transactions in a calendar year)
- Reader comments on tax reporting
Geographic Restrictions
Within the US, the Crypto.com App is available in every state except NY.
But some Crypto.com products and traded cryptocurrencies are not supported in all states.
My Experience
My Plan
- Use a referral and stake the 50 MCO to qualify for the referral bonus
- Experiment and try to earn a decent amount of 2% cashback with the Ruby Steel debit card each month
- Experiment and diversify my crypto investment with the Earn product
My Process
- I clicked on a referral link, downloaded the App to my phone, and added the referral code on initial launch
- The KYC process required my name, email, phone, driver license, and a selfie picture
- The App mentioned a verification process of 2-3 business days, but I was actually verified in just a few minutes
- I had some issues clearing fraud alerts on a Visa debit card that I attempted to use to purchase my initial 50 MCO stake, so I kicked off on an ACH transfer (which required address and SSN)
- But then I woke up and remembered that this was crypto, no need to clear fraud alerts or wait days on ACH transfers – I simply transferred crypto in and traded for MCO tokens to stake the card. So now I’m just waiting to receive the Ruby Steel (2% card). [SSN and address also needed for the card]
Our Verdict
This deal has more risk than a lot of the deals that we see, and many of the CDC promotions are probably less valuable than they might first appear.
But for me personally, I thought there was enough value to give it a go. Limiting my risk wherever possible by minimizing my stake, and trying to grab value from multiple CDC products.
Please no referrals in the comments of this post, but feel free to share them in this attached DoC Referral post.
All the Best!
History
- Update 11/01/2020: November 2020 Update Section
- Update 09/18/2020: Added updated card documentation with 5% and 8% back tiers
- Update 08/04/2020: Added August 2020 Update Section
- Update 06/30/2020: The special measures promotion has been extended an additional 3 months [through September 2020]. Probably most valuable for the 5-10% rebate of up to $25-$50 in credit on grocery, restaurant, and food delivery per month. But possibly more valuable if you found something special with the credit/debit card fee waiver. (HT: Evan)
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https://crypto.com/product-news/early-direct-deposit
For a limited time, users who set up direct deposit for the first time and complete one or more direct deposits totaling at least USD 400 will receive USD 25 of CRO. Deposits must be completed on or before 16 March 2022. Users who qualify for this offer will automatically receive CRO in their CRO Wallets within 21 days.
I've been using this app/card for about a year. I originally signed up for it because I wanted the free $50 worth of cryptocurrency, but I ended up really raking in some beer money through their cash back card.
Like the post says, they give you $50 of CRO on sign up. To unlock it, you have to stake a certain amount of CRO for 6 months (~$150 today). I know it sounds a bit sketchy, but CRO has only been steadily going up. You can sign up now and not stake any out of your own pocket, and see if it goes up if you want! When I signed up last year it was about $50, and now it's worth $150. Once I did stake and start using the card, I've made $375 through their cash back debit card. Each month you can use your debit card at certain stores, the easiest is Whole Foods, to get 10% cash back, up to $50/mo. I end up cycling that via Amazon GC's and I end up with an extra $50 on a monthly basis. That program have been going on for 5 months and netted me $250, along with $125 I've got from their general 2% cash back program. They started the 10% cash back program as a Corona Relief promo, but it hasn't gone away yet.
Use my link if you appreciated my experience, [Referral Removed, please use linked DoC Community Referral post to share referrals]... At worst, just claim the CRO now, and comeback for it later when it's hopefully worth more. I did that before I ever staked my own money and it had doubled in value in a few months!!
@Mike - I got the 2% card and I am not sure how I will add USD to it so that I can spend and get CROs. I have tried an ACH from my WF but the trial deposits have not been arrived yet Any other alternative to top up money
Generally you'll get a notice when the trial deposits arrive, I do ACH funding from a bank account (but haven't used Wells Fargo).
Believe another way to top up would be to send crypto if you had it another wallet to your crypto.com account.
With CRO at $0.16, takes the breakeven down to 1 - 1.33 years for the 2% tier for Spotify.
I am confused! Again lol. So I signed up, there is apparently $50 in my account of CRO. I don't know where these are from unless someone used a referral- if so, thanks! I am trying to buy the 50 MRO coins but now there is this pop up saying how everything is being converted to CRO. There doesn't seem to be a way to buy the MRO anymore?
OK, so they have discontinued the original terms without notifying. Now you have to stake 5000 of CRO which is $840 rn in USD! I'm trying to contest this since this was not on the offer I clicked.
@don-l
I hope they honor the original deal, the card tiers at the new prices wouldn't be worth it to me (at 4x the price)
I believe you maintain card benefits (from the MCO stakes) through the staking period, but it's unclear if they'll be grandfather much further into the future.
I'll add an update at the beginning of the post.
It would be nice if they grandfather MCO stake holders beyond the staking period. I recently staked 50 MCO and my card has not come in yet. I really lucked out at least for now as I can continue to get benifits with less than 5,000 CRO staked. Also, got extra bonus for converting MCO to CRO. But, man this app is making big changes left and right. Literally got this card for Spotify rebate. Would suck if I can't use it in future for Spotify rebates.
Looks like they updated their staking requirements just now. This is much better!
https://crypto.com/en/cards.html
Yup now I can "unlock" the bonus with just 1000 CRO. Better than before! Plus free spotify, cool.
Thanks will update
woah, they updated this page too: https://crypto.com/en/cards.html. Way to go on increasing the initial staking amount to get any metal cards now.
Looks like Crypto.com is doing some type of swap from MCO to CRO. I'll start reading up on the details
https://blog.crypto.com/important-announcement-mco-swap/
Has anyone here upgraded their card tier? Could you let me know the process? I already have midnight blue card.
I finally bought enough MCO to bring my tally to 50 MCO. Now, I'd like to "unlock" signup bonus which has been sitting there as locked for several months. When I click on "unlock signup bonus" it just takes me to my midnight blue card section. Do I click on "MCO stake", select card, stake MCO and the sign up bonus will be automatically "unlocked"? I don't want to miss out on the bonus. I'm interested in making sure my signup bonus is available than staking.
I figured this out by talking with their support team. Few clunky steps, but still a straightforward process. Had to email them "proof of address" for verification. So, basically you stake MCO first, then email them to upgrade your card tier, submit address proof and then signup bonus will be unlocked. Hopefully card arrives soon too. Been eyeing on this card for so long simply for Spotify rebate.
I upgraded stake from 50 to 500 MCO. however some of my tokens were in a locked “Earn” stake so I had to contact customer service.
After waiting a few weeks for them to get back to me, they canceled my 90-day terms, and staked them for me. Still waiting on the card to arrive, been staked at the new amount for about two weeks now.
Thanks for sharing
Was able to purchase 50 MCO in the app w/ a Sofi Debit card.
Has anyone tried US credit cards recently?
My Navy Federal works for one purchase every few days of a few hundred dollars or less. Above around $400-500 or more than one transaction a day gets held for fraud and doesn’t process.
Are you sure they are earning rewards? I got the transactions to go through on my Cash Rewards and Flagship rewards cards but neither of them earned rewards...
Oh they most definitely are not earning rewards.
Apologies if I made it sound like they were.
No problem, just wanted to clarify. Wouldn't it be easier to just use a bank account vs. a credit card then, if there are no rewards involved? Or a credit union credit card that can be paid off by debit card? As far as I know, you can't do that with NFCU though... :(
I was finally able to purchase crypto using Chime visa card. Had to turn on "international transaction" feature on the app though.
The various bonuses have been extended through September.
https://blog.crypto.com/3x3-extension/
Thanks for the heads up, I'll update the post.
As a DP, in June I was able to trigger the full $50 grocery bonus with a large debit purchase at Kroger.
Finally decided to buy a stack of MCO after the WireCard FUD/sell off. Signed up for a card with your referral and received the $50 bonus within a day. Thanks
Thanks, appreciate it. I'll try and get a few more crypto posts out soon.
Crypto.com is shutting down all WireCard issued debit cards in the UK and Europe. No impact on US issued cards, and no funds impacted:
https://blog.crypto.com/our-statement-regarding-wirecard-uk/
Wirecard has some issues to deal with (to say the least):
https://www.wsj.com/articles/wirecard-files-for-insolvency-after-revealing-accounting-hole-11593075223