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Tommy
Tommy (@guest_1230524)
July 28, 2021 18:39

Does anyone know how the average balance of at least $20k is calculated? is it a monthly average balance or the average balance across the 4 month period starting from the day of opening? I ask because I am catching up now because I made an error on the amount I deposited when I opened the account.

Nodo
Nodo (@guest_1246892)
August 31, 2021 22:03

In my experience, banks always go by (calendar or statement) month…like it sometimes shows on your monthly statement what your Avg Monthly Bal and Min Monthly Bal was. Find out which “month” they use; your “month” will start on either be the 1st or the day after the closing date on your last statement and will end on either the last day of the calendar month or 30 days after the start date.

If you know you’re going to be short, calculate the Avg Monthly Bal required x 30. Find your lowest Balance so far in this period and take that Min Bal x the total days so far. Subtract the second number from the first. The result is the total amount you need to make up, so take that number and divide by the number of remaining days in the period. Allow some extra “wiggle room” for deposits to post, etc.

Example: There are 10 days left in your “month”. Your lowest Balance during the last 20+ days was $1500. You need to have an Average Monthly Bal. of $2500. So $2500 x 30=$75,000. Your current Avg Monthly is at least $1500 x 20=$30,000. You need to make up the difference: $75,000 – $30,000 = $45,000. You have 10 days, but might use only 9 to be safe, so $45,000 / 9 = $5000. If you bring your account balance to $5000 or more (cash posts immediately and is most reliable) and keep the balance at or above $5000 for the rest of your “month”, your Avg Monthly Bal. will be equal or higher than the $2500 required.

I have done this successfully in the past.

Tommy
Tommy (@guest_1248047)
September 2, 2021 21:42

Thanks for the in-depth explanation! Really appreciate it!

Nodo
Nodo (@guest_1248613)
September 4, 2021 04:07

You’re welcome! Good luck!

Nodo
Nodo (@guest_1248629)
September 4, 2021 09:07

CORRECTION! I just read the fine print on a bank site that uses the actual number of days in the particular statement cycle…implication being they could use 31 days, not 30. I am correcting my original post to use a max 31 days in the calculations just to be safe.

Nodo
Nodo (@guest_1248630)
September 4, 2021 09:15

CORRECTION: Amend above to read “If you know you’re going to be short, calculate the Avg Monthly Bal required x 31.” (31 days, not 30.)

Example: There are 10 days left in your “month”. Your lowest Balance during the last 21 days was $1500. You need to have an Average Monthly Bal. of $2500. So $2500 x 31=$77,500. Your current Avg Monthly is at least $1500 x 21=$31,500. You need to make up the difference: $77,500 – $31,500 = $46,000. You have 10 days, but might use only 9 to be safe, so $46,000 / 9 = $5112 (rounded up).

As you can see, you’ve got to get the math right when you are trying to “catch up” to make the Avg Monthly Bal when you’ve been behind.

adam
adam (@guest_1230398)
July 28, 2021 15:38

IS this a korean bank or something. Called to set up an appt and could barely understand both teller and banker, seemed like they didnt get many english speakers tbh as far as chicago burbs are concerned

Tommy
Tommy (@guest_1230522)
July 28, 2021 18:36

Yes, it’s a Korean bank

David
David (@guest_1228661)
July 26, 2021 04:28

Anyone try sole prop in CA?

LovelyHa
LovelyHa (@guest_1227837)
July 23, 2021 12:35

Called the local branch and they need a business license to open the business checking account

Jesse
Jesse (@guest_1228759)
July 26, 2021 12:41

MANY people confuse tax registration with business license. It is unlikely a license is actually required for businesses that don’t require a license (which is to say most Sole Props/Independent Contractors in CA shouldn’t need one at least).

Lord Dima
Lord Dima (@guest_1235836)
August 8, 2021 14:34

It’s either or. But must provide at least one. Schedule C won’t work. Won’t open for me (sole prop with EIN, no need for tax license or business registration in CA).

Erik
Erik (@guest_1227298)
July 22, 2021 16:28

 William Charles ,
The easiest account to keep free is econo checking; $5/month but get $2 credit for one debit card transaction and $3 credit for E-statements. Thus, no monthly service charge.

parrothead
parrothead (@guest_1227139)
July 22, 2021 12:11

Also, please let us know if you do an OOS in branch opening. I would love to do this but live absolutely nowhere near a branch but will be passing by one soon.

Lil Ol Me
Lil Ol Me (@guest_1227119)
July 22, 2021 11:44

Anyone know if you have to live in one of the states? There’s a branch 40 miles from my house in a different state. Might be worth it to me if they let me do that…

Gerald
Gerald (@guest_1227098)
July 22, 2021 10:58

I’ll probably try this since there are moderately convenient locations. I have a legitimate sole proprietorship.

Plus $50 towards a basic checkbook order. When I opened a Citi business checking account, they sent a free expensive ledger style check order that I have no use for. Do people still use checks?

victor
victor (@guest_1227133)
July 22, 2021 12:08

i called into a NJ branch. seem like you need a EIN to open. Would not take SSN for sole prop.

Jesse
Jesse (@guest_1228762)
July 26, 2021 12:47

HUCA for another branch/rep to double check, because that’s ridiculous.

B
B (@guest_1227094)
July 22, 2021 10:44

If I sign up and drive for Doordash one time, does that count as a business?

Jags
Jags (@guest_1227073)
July 22, 2021 10:17

Do they bust your chops about having a “business” or can anyone open this?

LikeToLearn
LikeToLearn (@guest_1227125)
July 22, 2021 11:49

most definitely will need to be a real business—they do lots of research. I have real businesses but was denied for personal before they even finished the business research. Too many inquiries was the denial reason.

Betelgeuse ㊙️
Betelgeuse ㊙️ (@guest_1227188)
July 22, 2021 13:29

LikeToLearn How many inquiries in 6, 12 months?

LikeToLearn
LikeToLearn (@guest_1227237)
July 22, 2021 15:15

the lady at the bank said it showed 57 inquires in the past 3 years—I haven’t been keeping track, but i’ve been turned down for several accts though I’ve never had anything ‘negative’—just too many inquiries and too many new accts.

Betelgeuse ㊙️
Betelgeuse ㊙️ (@guest_1227318)
July 22, 2021 17:09

LikeToLearn I see. Thank you!

AD
AD (@guest_1227286)
July 22, 2021 16:13

Eh, I have a “business,” though I do have an EIN. The banker who helped open my personal account is currently helping open a biz account for me.

AD
AD (@guest_1227315)
July 22, 2021 17:05
  AD

I spoke waaaayyy too soon. I said I was a reseller (PFS coin stuff). The banker hit me back:

“This will be considered New to Banking, which will take additional days and approvals. We will need:

Source of funds-start up revenue and how you will be maintaining the business expense (if any) for the first year on a letterhead.
The source of funds-verification of 3 months bank statement.
What you will be selling specifically.
Reseller’s permit
3-main customers
3-supliers
Expected activities
Cash in/out
Checks in/out
ACH in/out
Wires in/out
International activities
After receiving all the information listed above-it will take approximately 10-business days to prep and approved by 3 departments.

We will be contacting you for any additional documents or information from the review team.”

Chex Party Mix
Chex Party Mix (@guest_1227383)
July 22, 2021 19:04
  AD

In light of this I will be taking my “business” elsewhere.

Yao Ko
Yao Ko (@guest_1227514)
July 22, 2021 22:58
  AD

That’s a lot of work for $500! I’d rather open the Citi Business Checking with $15K deposit for $500 bonus.

Jesse
Jesse (@guest_1228761)
July 26, 2021 12:46
  AD

Wow! That’s a whole bunch of BS just for a checking account.

Nodo
Nodo (@guest_1246899)
August 31, 2021 22:20
  AD

That’s insane! If you’re not asking for credit or a loan, WTF?! A state tax registration should be sufficient. I would double-check with another branch &/or the 800#.

everythingbagel
everythingbagel (@guest_1227469)
July 22, 2021 21:21

Thank you for the DP/warning, guess I won’t be opening a “business” account as sole prop.