American Express Expands Cash Advance Definition (Digital Currency & Digital Precious Metals Added)

American Express has sent out a letter with ‘important account changes’. Effective November 1, 2020 the definition of what qualifies as a cash advance will be:

A cash advance is a charge to get cash or cash equivalents, including travelers cheques, gift cheques, foreign currency, money orders, digital currency, casino gaming chips, race track wagers, similar offline and online betting transactions, and digital precious metals products

The only difference to the current definition is the addition of digital currency and digital precious metals products. Digital currency purchases have coded as a cash advance for most payment networks for some time, so I’m surprised that wasn’t the case with American Express already.

Hat tip to true_tedi

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Jim
Jim (@guest_1053563)
September 12, 2020 15:28

I’ve been with American Express for 26 years I received the replacement platinum card yesterday and it was an absolute disgrace if I had food stuck between my teeth I could’ve use the card to get it out instead of dental floss, I have never taken a cash advance from American Express I never used the prior service which was if you took a cash advance It would come out of your connected checking account I always thought that was the best way to go if you wanted to use that feature because the money was already in your bank but they realize they were losing a high interest rate on cash advances so they’ve made it more easy for customers to get in over their head. AMEX needs to get their poop together I’m getting Tired of spending three grand a year on various platinum‘s Delta Reserve‘s etc. etc. add it up over five years 10 years and it’s a $20,000 bill just for fees they have become a disgrace And I will be downgrading all of my cards.You don’t want to cancel them because you’ve had them so long your credit report will take a dive a deep dive so you have to keep them you’re locked in but you can downgrade that’s my suggestion.

Ethan
Ethan (@guest_1053251)
September 11, 2020 23:02

I love how credit card companies treat cryptocurrency as a cash equivalent while the IRS treats it as property. Every institution seems determined to treat it as unfavorably as possible.

Ed Elliott
Ed Elliott (@guest_1051922)
September 10, 2020 21:00

Does anyone know of any CC companies that don’t code it as a Cash Advance?

Lisa
Lisa (@guest_1051946)
September 10, 2020 21:45

Does anyone know any companies that let you buy crypto with credit card and mainly stable coins? Crypto.com has no fees on credit card but all my amex get rejected

Mariano Kenny
Mariano Kenny (@guest_1051966)
September 10, 2020 22:34

Digital currency would be any payment proccesor , digital wallet such as paypal, ? I doubt they will be charging cash advance for paypal

Frank
Frank (@guest_1051981)
September 10, 2020 23:19

NFCU works on crypto.com. No points though. Most major are blocked so you’d likely need to try credit unions.

Vince
Vince (@guest_1052029)
September 11, 2020 01:07

No but interestingly cardcoins.co let’s you buy bitcoin with visa gift cards, great for ms

slowbrake
slowbrake (@guest_1052109)
September 11, 2020 09:41

Looked into cardcoins.co and today their price for BTC was 16% higher than coinbase. Is that typical?

That price difference makes all MS I know of unprofitable. Not bad for money laundering though.

Orin
Orin (@guest_1052114)
September 11, 2020 09:58

Do you even know what money laundering is ?

slowbrake
slowbrake (@guest_1053136)
September 11, 2020 20:57

Low effort.

Educate > criticize.

Orin
Orin (@guest_1056932)
September 17, 2020 18:34

I do not want to educate people on what money laundering is

But what you are saying shows u do not know what it is

Google the term to get a basic understanding – but in short, it is making a legit reason to have money which was actually obtained illegally. What you are referring to would not help launder money at all. Launder as in “cleaning” dirty money

It would be a way to legitimately explain to someone how you have enough money to buy something like a yatch or a Ferrari

Now you got me talking too much already

qmc
qmc (@guest_1052139)
September 11, 2020 11:05

Looked right now and it’s 20%. Someone’s gotta pay for the fraud and processing.

churnchurnchurning
churnchurnchurning (@guest_1051916)
September 10, 2020 20:51

What exactly is a ‘digital precious metal product’?

Jason
Jason (@guest_1052000)
September 10, 2020 23:57
Lrdx
Lrdx (@guest_1052027)
September 11, 2020 00:50

A digital product with a name to fool fools.