American Express Hilton No Lifetime Language Offers

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• @2 @6

  You seem to have a flaw in DoC's editing software. I now have a reply below marked as Spam when all I did was Edit it multiple times.

  I've had that happen before, it seems to mark it as Spam simply because you edit it more than some preset number of times.

  Well, I was editing it multiple times simply because I wanted to get the content as correct as possible.

  I put no links in the email, it's all text, so why should it be marked as Spam? You need to review DoC's editing software to see if there's a flaw where it marks things as Spam for the wrong reason.

  • I don't think it's gone to spam, just moderation. Editing multiple times can be flagged as spam as it's generally what is done but spammers. If you need to edit multiple times it might be better to just do a new comment.

    • @2

      You wrote:

      "If you need to edit multiple times it might be better to just do a new comment."

      Ok, but if I do that, how do I delete the original unedited comment, or mark it for deletion during moderation?

      • Just reply to it saying please delete. You'll need to make sure to use an e-mail address when leaving a comment though

• All links dead?

  • Why are you asking if they are all dead?

    I still see the applications for the first two (no AF and Surpass) when I click on their links.

    It’s only the Aspire offer that has been dead for a while.

    And remember, only the three links at the top of the page are from the most current update. So obviously all the links below that are likely to be dead, because they were from much longer ago.

• I guess I am in pop-up jail for the Aspire. While I wait to be either out of jail or for another NLL Aspire link, should I just sign up for a 2nd Surpass with this NLL and then upgrade my original Surpass to an Aspire?

  • In case you don't know, the most common cause of pop-up jail (PUJ) is not having done much spending on your open Amex cards in recent months. So if that's the case, put some spend on each of them for a few months and you may get out of PUJ.

    And keep in mind that banks cannot typically upgrade you or downgrade you until a full year has passed since you applied for them.

    So it may to take longer for you to get an Aspire via an upgrade for a Surpass you don't yet have, than just to either try to get out of PUJ by putting some spend for a few months on your existing Amex cards, and/or wait for an Aspire NLL.

    And keep in mind, if you're in PUJ due to low spend on existing cards, that PUJ may even apply to an NLL link. An NLL link may improve your chances of being approved, but it doesn't guarantee it.

    NLL links were created to get around the "lifetime" rule on cards ("lifetime" actually only lasts as long as Amex keeps their data around, which has in the past never been longer than about 7 years), but pop-up jail is not limited to "lifetime" rules, it's based on various ways that Amex judges you as a customer worthy of being given a signup bonus.

• Anyone who has been approved for the cards and has had the cards before receive the SUB yet? I got approved and did not get any pop up, when accepting the card it showed the offer and was confirmed by chat, but its been over a week since I met the spend and I haven't gotten the point yet and usually amex points post within a few days after meeting the spend, so curious if others have received the bonus yet

  • Ya the system is lagging Hilton spend on all fronts. None of the meters are moving. Sometimes in the beginning of the year this happens I remember it happened last year too Hilton is behind

  • Many Amex credits and SUBs have been posting very delayed recently. I met a SUB on an Amex Business Gold card a few weeks ago (maybe even a month ago) and it just posted today. Wouldn't worry just yet :)

• Anyone know if there's one for the business?

  • YMMV: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card-application/apply/hilton-honors-american-express-business-credit-card/64038-104-1-WOCLTK5U12#/
    @guest_2021963

  • There is. Look for the more recent post, it links to the business card too.

    • I think you may be confused.

      I just did a search of DoC for Hilton, and the only more recent post I see if from March 4.

      And that more recent post is about new increased bonuses, but not No Lifetime Language offers, which is what @guest_2021963 seems to be looking for.

      If you do know of a more recent post with No Lifetime Language offers, you have to explain where it is, because it doesn't come up in a search of DoC for Hilton.

      • NLL doesn't matter. LL offers only say "may not be eligible," you'll get the pop-up if you're not.

        • That may not be accurate but this was my first time using a NLL and here's how it played out. P2 has been getting the ineligible pop up for some time now but on March 10 and March 11 tried a few times via Amex site and Hiltons site for both the no AF and Surpass and got the pop up each time. On March 12 used the NLL link from DOC and was approved. If the NLL wasn't the key to getting approved, what else would it be?

    • I'll look but if you come across it. Send it over

  • There is one older NLL link for business listed above but it doesn't currently work. So presumably there is none now, but maybe there will be at some point.

    But you only need that link if you've had the business card before within the past 7 years or so. If you haven't, you can use a normal business card application.

    And remember, NLL or not, Amex tends to often deny signup offers to people who've "sock drawered" some of their Amex cards, ie, have not been doing any spending on them.

    • Myself and P2 have been in PUJ for sometime. Put spend on the card for 30 days and recently approved for the Biz Platinum but still in PUJ for other cards. P2 used the NLL link and was approved while in the same week PUJ using reg link. So was hoping NLL business link would get me there.

      • According to discussions I've seen on FlyerTalk, 30 days may not be enough of a spend time to satisfy Amex and help you get out of Pop-Up Jail (PUJ).

        It may take several statement periods of spend on each of your open Amex cards.

        I think Amex may count statement periods, not days, of spend.

        It's hard to tell for sure, because all we have are user comments, not Amex official explanations of their PUJ rules.

• P2 in PUJ through the Amex site for both the no AF and Surpass. Approved with NLL

• Oh no, they are all dead?

  • Why are you saying that they are all dead?

    I still see the applications for the first two (no AF and Surpass) when I click on their links.

    It's only the Aspire offer that has been dead for a while.

• So I tried opening these cards from Amex official website and got the pop up, but these links did not give me the popups so I accepted the cards :)

• "We apologize that the offer you are looking for may no longer be available."

  • Does anyone have an updated aspire link? the link above returns an error that says “We apologize that the offer you are looking for may no longer be available.” TY

  • You didn't state which of the three offers above that was for.

    I only saw that message for the Aspire offer just now. The other two offers above still seem to work.

    And, btw, a couple posts below yours someone else already explained that the Aspire offer no longer works, just didn't spell out that message.

• I applied and was approved for the Surpass, card arrived today however Chat and phone agent are both saying there is no SUB on the new card.

  I have a feeling when human eyes see my app they are going to realize I already had the card

  • Sorry man. Think something is wrong with your accounts. I just chatted AMEX to ensure the proms are attached and they confirmed the details (70,000 for Hilton Card, 130,000 + FNC for Surpass). And yes i've had these before, many times.

    • Do you have to cancel the card before reapplying for the card? If so, how long do you wait and are you waiting from the last time you got the promo or when you cancelled the card? Thank you.

    • Fake news.. I confirmed over chat I am eligible for the bonuses. This is my 3rd time with Surpass.

  • Then don't chat and/or call in to ask about it