American Express Schwab 1.1% Cashout Now Limited To One Million Points Per Year

The American Express Platinum Schwab version card offers 1.1 cents per points cashout option. After October 1, 2024, they will be limiting us to one million points per calendar year on the 1.1 cents cashout.

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For redemptions made before October 1, 2024: A Basic Card Member may redeem Membership Rewards® points for deposits to their eligible account at a rate of 10,000 points for a $110 deposit.

For redemptions made on or between October 1, 2024, and December 31, 2024: A Basic Card Member may redeem Membership Rewards® points for deposits to their eligible account at a rate of 10,000 points for a $110 deposit for up to 1,000,000 points, after which they may continue to redeem points at a rate of 10,000 points for an $80 deposit through December 31, 2024.

For redemptions made on or after January 1, 2025: A Basic Card Member may redeem Membership Rewards® points for deposits to their eligible account at a rate of 10,000 points for a $110 deposit for up to 1,000,000 points per calendar year, after which they may continue to redeem points at a rate of 10,000 points for an $80 deposit for the remainder of that calendar year.

A Basic Card Member may redeem up to 4 million Membership Rewards® points every 7 calendar days for this reward.

After redeeming one million points for cash, you’ll get just .8 cents per points. Another option is to open the Business Checking account from Amex and then you can get 1 cents per point cash out on up to one million points cash out if you also have the Amex Business Platinum card.

Hat tip to DDG

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robertw
robertw (@guest_1869464)
July 4, 2024 09:41

I know many big business owners who will be impacted by this. They dont MS or anything like that. I know when these topics come up the assumption is all that hold huge amounts are MSing or something like that. I know some guys who generate 6 million a year merely at 4X spend.

Thom
Thom (@guest_1869423)
July 4, 2024 07:06

Dr Evil “one MILLION points

Kafka
Kafka (@guest_1869397)
July 4, 2024 05:01

This seems like a measure that protects the rate for the majority of users by limiting a costly minority. You’d see no impact if you spend $16,666 per month on airfare or $27,083/mo Gold+BGR+BBP. So business owners redeeming to a personal account or heavy MSers. Even churning: if you’re hitting eight 125k NLLs a year, pop-up jail will catch you before this.

Credit card guy
Credit card guy (@guest_1869174)
July 3, 2024 17:42

This was never a great card and keeps getting worse (the annual fee increased by about $150 a few years ago, the redemption rate dropped, and now this). Schwab needs to abandon Amex and find a better credit card partner.

robertw
robertw (@guest_1869466)
July 4, 2024 09:42

AMEX fits their custoemr profile. I see AMEX pushing toward a 995 fee on Plat.

DSP
DSP (@guest_1869485)
July 4, 2024 10:09

It was a phenomenal card if you were able to take advantage of the AF discount via Schwab account value. Now that everyone is at $695 though its pretty hard to justify the AF unless you can still push 1M a year to Schwab.

nik
nik (@guest_1869711)
July 4, 2024 17:25

Now that everyone is at $695 though its pretty hard to justify the AF unless you can still push 1M a year to Schwab.”

They reimbursed 200 when the fee was 495, And they do the same now. They need to increase the reimbursement.

joe
joe (@guest_1869157)
July 3, 2024 17:14

Well shit. There goes my entire MR plan.

Alex
Alex (@guest_1869133)
July 3, 2024 16:38

Huge devaluation as a business owner. Please post a reminder before this goes into effect!

joe
joe (@guest_1869158)
July 3, 2024 17:14

Same. I cash out probably 10x that a year. Sad day.

beat2def
beat2def (@guest_1869604)
July 4, 2024 13:47

DAMN. How are you generating that many amex points? I want that. LOL.

John
John (@guest_1869113)
July 3, 2024 16:06

Better this than not disclosing hidden limits and then blacklisting people when they cash out.

DSP
DSP (@guest_1869488)
July 4, 2024 10:10

Was that ever a thing? They’ve always had the 4M per 7 days limit posted.

Cate the MSer
Cate the MSer (@guest_1869006)
July 3, 2024 13:49

Fk UUUUUUUUU Amex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike
Mike (@guest_1868895)
July 3, 2024 11:56

I was told by Amex rep recently that biz checking only cashed out at .6 per point, unless you had the Amex Plat Biz. He was adamant, even after pressing him about it.

Jeremiah B
Jeremiah B (@guest_1869033)
July 3, 2024 14:15

You’re surprised that an Amex rep didn’t know what they were talking about?

First time?

Ian
Ian (@guest_1869153)
July 3, 2024 17:10

Not this time. They’re correct

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1869722)
July 4, 2024 18:28

Amex’s terms say “1,000 points for an $8 deposit”.

Ian
Ian (@guest_1870551)
July 6, 2024 21:02

My bad if that’s what’s being referred to. I was only aware of the 1cpp biz plat/checking bonus. And the original article makes it sound like that’s a benefit of the checking account and not the platinum

Mike
Mike (@guest_1869191)
July 3, 2024 18:26

Did I sound surprised? Multiple data points on this, genius? BTW, I can’t stand Amex reps and CS, unlike so many bloggers and MSers.

makingapoint
makingapoint (@guest_1868891)
July 3, 2024 11:54

Major major devaluation.

makingapoint
makingapoint (@guest_1868894)
July 3, 2024 11:55

1 million points+ a year was pretty easy to do especially with Rakuten connected.

John
John (@guest_1869116)
July 3, 2024 16:09

MS or legit purchases?

Anon
Anon (@guest_1870344)
July 6, 2024 06:48

MS IS legit purchases!