Bilt Lowers Max ‘Rent Day’ Earn To 1,000 Points Each Month & Excludes Tax Payments (Starts October)

Update 8/2/24: They are also excluding tax payments from earning Rent Day bonus rewards. (ht FM) Not clear if this excludes state/city taxes, property taxes, and business taxes as well. 

Original Post 7/26/24:

Bilt’s CEO sent out an email today talking about Bilt Rent Day which earns double points. At the bottom of the email in the fine print it’s mentioned that beginning in October 2024 the double points on Bilt Mastercard will be limited to a max 1,000 points each month on Rent Day. Previously the max was 10,000.

A lot of people tried pushing all of their spend on the first of the month to get the double points and that won’t be possible after September. Starting October 2024, you’ll only get the double on the first 1,000 points which would be, for example, $1,000 in ordinary spend or $333.33 in Dining spend.

Hat tip to reader n.

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Scoville
Scoville (@guest_1887267)
August 3, 2024 00:13

There were a few months early on where you could use the curve card to time shift all your restaurant spending on rent day to earn 6x on built and 1x on curve. They closed that loophole unfortunately.

wander
wander (@guest_1887084)
August 2, 2024 18:26

The core benefit is still there, rent point earn that no other card has w/o sub churn. This is still a great deal.

Smoke if you got em
Smoke if you got em (@guest_1887195)
August 2, 2024 21:08

Will be a sad day when WF pulls the plug on BILT, then it either ends abruptly, or slowly devalues, reducing or eliminating points earned on rent, or upsettingly charging a fees to pay rent. Time will tells.

AdoptaPetInstead
AdoptaPetInstead (@guest_1887060)
August 2, 2024 17:41

If I want to pay a private landlord via venmo can I automate with the bilt card or can this only be automated with a check?

Lee
Lee (@guest_1887120)
August 2, 2024 19:21

Bilt itself must make the payment.

AdoptaPetInstead
AdoptaPetInstead (@guest_1887122)
August 2, 2024 19:24

As in I could set Bilt as the payment card in Venmo and then pay the private landlord?

Jason
Jason (@guest_1887175)
August 2, 2024 20:40

NO, You setup the payment in Bilt to the landord (via check/snail mail) NOT through VENMO!

AdoptaPetInstead
AdoptaPetInstead (@guest_1887188)
August 2, 2024 20:54

Ah I see, thanks for the clarification. I was hoping to steer clear of checks/snail mail. Historically I’ve read Bilt supported Venmo and not Zelle, but perhaps I have that backwards.

f
f (@guest_1887499)
August 3, 2024 14:08

Bilt does support Venmo to landlord. I use it.

You have to add evolve bank as the payment method to use bilt on venmo. Ask the customer care for more information.

JLink
JLink (@guest_1887198)
August 2, 2024 21:15

You can, the other replier is wrong. You can add your BILT account to Venmo, and then use Venmo, pulling from your BILT account, to pay your private landlord. This reddit page documents it well: https://www.reddit.com/r/CreditCards/comments/wbmdrd/using_venmo_to_pay_rent_with_bilt/

And BILT’s site confirms so too:
https://support.biltrewards.com/hc/en-us/articles/6561447272717-I-pay-rent-by-check-Paypal-Venmo-Zelle-can-I-still-use-the-Bilt-Mastercard

Komma
Komma (@guest_1887045)
August 2, 2024 16:56

The amount of people “angry” over the change is odd. The only change is you can’t heavily abuse the points earning 1 day a month with manufactured spending, which can’t be too surprising it wouldn’t last forever. It’s still a no af card that has had amazing transfer bonuses and earns points on rent with no fee.

John
John (@guest_1887066)
August 2, 2024 17:52

just another nerf

Lee
Lee (@guest_1887125)
August 2, 2024 19:25

But, there’s a chance 1) transfer bonuses will be capped, 2) transfer bonuses will no longer be 2.5x, and 3) transfer bonuses will ultimately move to semi-annual. Don’t count your chickens . . .

Bilt
Bilt (@guest_1887181)
August 2, 2024 20:47

Achieving status will be harder.

RPGfaFG
RPGfaFG (@guest_1887519)
August 3, 2024 14:53

I’m “angry” (or more accurately annoyed) because Bilt has implemented a stunning (and stealthy) devaluation in the last year. The higher tier transfer bonuses are a big part of the program’s value. Bilt increased the thresholds for 2024, but that was OK because the Rent Day bonus still allowed for making Platinum w/o too much opportunity cost. Now, I either have to do a high volume of sub-optimal spend or just resign myself to getting a couple thousand points per month (which is still OK). On top of all that, they weren’t up front about notifying their customers about the most recent change (burying it in the T&C page initially). I suspect they are making the change now, because a higher-than-expected number of customers are on their way to achieve Platinum status. And then pretending like it was no big deal as an excuse for being less-than-transparent. I expected better from Bilt

Bilt
Bilt (@guest_1887780)
August 4, 2024 08:49

Also, they did this after people reapplied. When Wells Fargo purchased Choice cards from Barclays, they transferred the cards. Cardholders didn’t have to reapply and impact their FICO score.

Omer
Omer (@guest_1887622)
August 3, 2024 18:55

Hey Komma…how can you “abuse” points earning structure that is offered by the company?? Even today it is limited to 10000 points, they just nerfed it to 1000

Dudson
Dudson (@guest_1887031)
August 2, 2024 16:33

Do we know if tax payments will be excluded from the 5x, 5 day, card opening promo? … Here’s hoping that’s that even a think still…

Celery
Celery (@guest_1887337)
August 3, 2024 07:35

Obviously, 5 times 0 is 0

Midnight
Midnight (@guest_1887000)
August 2, 2024 16:05

I remember when they sent out a notice to some people about using the Curve card to switch transactions to the Bilt card for “Rent” day.

Trust Buster
Trust Buster (@guest_1883828)
July 29, 2024 08:32

It seems like business these days is all about ‘gotchas’ .. in the fine print, bait and switch. Seriously, is this just in the U.S., or like a global phenomena? We need more regulations. These companies be lyin’

Adi
Adi (@guest_1884075)
July 29, 2024 17:59

Just in the US. Corporations runs this damn country

Avi
Avi (@guest_1887008)
August 2, 2024 16:09

Enshitification

John
John (@guest_1887099)
August 2, 2024 18:44

Usually it’s a select few that take perks to the extreme and ruin it for most people.

Mantis
Mantis (@guest_1887696)
August 3, 2024 23:08

How is this a gotcha? They are announcing the change months in advance. That’s literally the opposite of a gotcha. More regulations mean higher prices, more government power, and incumbents benefits. Every. Single. Time. Maybe find something else a little more consequential to be outraged about.

BrandonB
BrandonB (@guest_1883582)
July 28, 2024 13:43

Bilt isnt run by anyone I would want to be associated with. If I cant abuse their system and cost them money then I wont bother.

Physicist
Physicist (@guest_1883544)
July 28, 2024 12:04

Will Bilt continue to offer 1x points on rent payments with no cap on that benefit and no transaction fee for paying rent with the card?

Celery
Celery (@guest_1883761)
July 29, 2024 01:28

There is a cap on that benefit though.

Jim Wang
Jim Wang (@guest_1883812)
July 29, 2024 07:18

There was always a 100,000 point annual cap.

Up Dog
Up Dog (@guest_1883829)
July 29, 2024 08:34

And if you’re paying more than $100,000 annually on RENT… do points and miles really matter anymore? Like, you’re probably flying private anyway.

Matt Katakis
Matt Katakis (@guest_1887046)
August 2, 2024 16:57

Not really. That’s like $8-9K a month. In NYC/LA, it’ll get you a nice place for sure, but that’s not really flying private money.

sullim4
sullim4 (@guest_1883513)
July 28, 2024 10:26

It is interesting to me that they’d take this approach to nerfing the card. The 2x spend on rent days earns them interchange, which depending on the merchant type can exceed 2%.

A much smarter move would have been to apply 2x to the catch-all category and exclude restaurant and travel spend, which already get bonuses. Plenty of cards have proven that 2 points per dollar is a sustainable bonus level for a no-AF card. This still gives incentive to customers putting actual spend on the card without completely throwing them under the bus.

The whole issue with this card is that their customers are using it for “rent” and nothing else. This move only exacerbates that problem.

RPGfaFG
RPGfaFG (@guest_1887985)
August 4, 2024 18:51

You have to remember that Bilt and WF are separate companies. The points are issued by Bilt. Bilt pays for redemptions primarily out of their cut of the interchange fee from WF (and the $200 they receive per sign-up as per the WSJ article). I don’t the the exact numbers, but assume the interchange fee is 3%, Bilt gets 50% (1.5%) and each point costs about $0.01, depending on how it is redeemed. 2x everywhere would cost Bilt $0.005 per dollar spent. It’s not sustainable.