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sg77
sg77 (@guest_1589569)
April 1, 2023 02:48

A nice spreadsheet from bogleheads (MM Optimizer v5) that shows which type of fund currently gives the highest Tax Equivalent Yield based on your federal/state tax rates: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SE5AeQHO–6g-N7QZB8uKItSq1cdPlJRoJN1jlmLa34/edit#gid=1411540421

(make a copy of it, and on the “My BestNow” tab select a state and edit the tax rates)

VMSXX (Municipal) is a lot higher now (though seems to be cyclical; higher near end of quarter? might be worse later)

Henry
Henry (@guest_1598520)
April 15, 2023 14:10

The difference between VUSXX and VMSXX is now over 2%. The municipal market does not follow the US securities market and has seen ups and downs since 2022 unlike the funds invested in US Treasuries which have been going upward over the same time period. Unless you are in the very high tax brackets, I would not recommend putting money into those type of funds. Also, they are subject to redemption gates unlike Treasury money funds.

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1598538)
April 15, 2023 14:54

Based on some bogleheads threads (and that spreadsheet showing results for the last year), it seems like in the long term, even though the muni fund was more volatile, it ended up doing a little better than a treasury fund (but yeah, it depends on tax brackets, and not guaranteed to happen in the future). Some people switch between the funds periodically depending on which has the highest yield; but maybe not worth the effort.

Henry
Henry (@guest_1600970)
April 18, 2023 20:27

During the pandemic years (2020 to early 2022), the near zero interest rate policy of the Fed pushed all money market mutual fund rates to 0.01% (one that I was invested in even reached 0.00% for several months in those years). It did not make any sense to be invested in taxable funds when non-taxable funds had the same yield. The current gap between the Treasury and municipal money funds is now almost three percent for some fund families (close to 2% versus close to 5%). Going back to 2021 and early 2022, a tax free yield of 2% would have attracted a ton of money. If US Treasury funds were also close to 2% now, that would make municipals the better choice. As the Nuveen motto used to say, it is not what you earn, it’s what you keep.

I have switched between municipals and Government funds recently. Since mid-2022, I moved completely out of municipals. The municipal rate has swung up and down recently and not worth the effort to move back to them. The Government fund rates have been moving upward and has been more stable. Until the rate difference is small and the municipal rate stabilizes, I would not switch back.

Henry
Henry (@guest_1618022)
May 14, 2023 20:12

As of this weekend, many money market mutual funds have gone past the 5% mark. VMFXX (5.01%), VMRXX (5.02%), DTGXX (5.0%) join the group of at least 5%. All three have a portion of their investment portfolio in US Government securities.

The recent 7 day rate trends shows municipals in a downward trend while Government securities in an upward trend. 100% US Treasury funds have lagged behind US Government funds as long term Treasury securities rates have trended downward due to the possible halt in rate increases by the Fed.

beat2def
beat2def (@guest_1675708)
August 19, 2023 16:27

No love for Missouri?

Mel
Mel (@guest_1588409)
March 30, 2023 13:53

When VMRXX mentions their break up as following, can we assume all 99.9% is towards Treasuries and hence free from CA taxes? and I pay CA taxes only on 0.1%?

Repurchase Agreements – 57.10%
U.S. Govt. Obligations – 39.60%
U.S. Treasury Bills – 3.20%

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1589578)
April 1, 2023 03:22

My understanding is that repurchase agreements are not tax exempt, and depending on the percentage and your state, everything from the fund may no longer be tax exempt (but it’s complicated, and we might not know the percentage that matters until the end of the year?). Some other discussion about this:

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/savings-taxes-on-earnings-from-high-yield-savings-accounts/#comment-1551605

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/savings-taxes-on-earnings-from-high-yield-savings-accounts/#comment-1569690

524Purgatory
524Purgatory (@guest_1526804)
January 5, 2023 11:38

Vanguard VMFXX at 4.21% and Schwab SWVXX at 4.25% 7-day yield

ljviss
ljviss (@guest_1489743)
November 16, 2022 20:28

To get the $240 bonus are we required to invest the full $2,000 and leave it invested for 90 days?

mike corcoran
mike corcoran (@guest_1480445)
November 5, 2022 09:09

What is the best option for parking my $2K in ETORO

Benji
Benji (@guest_1452332)
September 25, 2022 13:14

Schwab’s SWVXX now at 2.54%

Henry
Henry (@guest_1450600)
September 22, 2022 20:01

I can recommend the DWS Treasury Money Fund (IUSXX) which has a $2500 initial deposit requirement and current rates are close to the Vanguard Money Market Fund rates (currently at 2.21% as of Sept. 21). The Fund offers check writing ($100 minimum) and also allows ACH withdrawal transactions using the ABA routing number and account number. The custodial bank is United Missouri Bank which processes the ACH debit transactions that can be sent from any merchant that accepts ACH payments. The minimum amount of each ACH debit is $50. So the account could act like a checking account with unlimited debits. The Fund does have a $20 annual account charge if the balance drops below $10,000 (assessed near the end of the year). This charge can be cancelled if you have over $50,000 in total balances with DWS or if you sign up for electronic communications.

They previously required you to mail an application to open an account, but recently allowed the online application for specific funds (Class S share funds which included this one).

Raj
Raj (@guest_1432978)
August 27, 2022 08:43

Thanks for the detailed post, Looking forward to your post on U.S. Treasury bills (T-Bills)

Tenchuchoy
Tenchuchoy (@guest_1428227)
August 19, 2022 11:14

Based on those rates, might as well just open a SoFi acct and get the 2% interest. Been using it as my primary account.

Ash
Ash (@guest_1427994)
August 19, 2022 00:46

Good post. For now, I am getting DD in Sofi, and getting the easy 2.0% interest.