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Retired
Retired (@guest_1938449)
October 25, 2024 17:12

I am doing this deal for the second time. I still have a JPM brokerage account opened by my investment advisor last year, which I used to meet the bonus requirement. Can I just fund that this year, and skip the meeting with the investment advisor this time? Or do I need him to link my old brokerage account to the new CPC checking account? I am looking to do self-directed investment.

Jay
Jay (@guest_1939302)
October 27, 2024 15:31

As long as the brokerage account from JPM is open and shows under your Chase login it should be good to go. You can confirm with the CPC banker that it appears in order? They would probably encourage or attempt to coordinate a follow-up with the JPM advisor if they arent in the branch at the time.

If/when you do ACATS the advisor will be made aware/get involved. But at that point it’s not like they’re going to block you from having the account in order to meet the CPC bonus.

When I churned this, I was somewhat surprised to learn my JPM brokerage account was “open” even though I had done a full ACATS out and had a $0 balance (probably no fee due to $0). I called the general JPM brokerage # and they said yup it looks open, feel free to add funds. I still had the JPM advisor attached (still do).

Retired
Retired (@guest_1939482)
October 27, 2024 23:10

Thanks for confirming that my existing brokerage account should work. It will save me the hassle of meeting with the investment advisor. How long have you been churning the CPC bonus?

Jay
Jay (@guest_1939490)
October 27, 2024 23:29

I’ve done the CPC bonus twice, so I suppose one churn. I’m going to give it another go in a couple months combined with the normal total checking/savings bonuses.

Retired
Retired (@guest_1939761)
October 28, 2024 13:53

A couple months ago when I tried to upgrade to CPC and add the CPC bonus on top of the total checking/savings bonus that I was working on, I was told by my banker that I couldn’t do that. Are you sure you can do both at the same time?

Kate
Kate (@guest_1942159)
October 31, 2024 23:22

I think you can do the total checking/savings bonus first, then upgrade to CPC and get CPC bonus. I did that before, no problem at all.

Retired
Retired (@guest_1943024)
November 1, 2024 22:42

Okay, thanks.

TJ
TJ (@guest_1945813)
November 6, 2024 20:37

The DoC post says you need to wait 6 months before upgrading…is that 6 months from when you receive the checking/savings bonus ?

Jay
Jay (@guest_1947164)
November 8, 2024 13:02
  TJ

You don’t need to wait. You can do it the next day. Unless something changed. I upgraded to CPC after opening total checking/savings the prior week. I did not complete the requirements for total checking/savings until AFTER I upgraded to CPC.

TJ
TJ (@guest_1936355)
October 22, 2024 14:59

Looks like the premium deposit workaround wouldn’t be a legitimate reason anymore:

https://www.bogleheads.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8082144#p8082144

Jack
Jack (@guest_1940862)
October 30, 2024 04:03
  TJ

Damn. What’s the best play now?

Erik
Erik (@guest_1935288)
October 21, 2024 04:18

My last enrollment date was 1/22/24. I wonder if I am eligible again on 1/22/25 or do I need to wait until 1/23/25 when the current offer is over…?

I enrolled in the morning on 1/22/24 so maybe I am eligible in the afternoon on 1/22/25……. 🙂

yaaarp
yaaarp (@guest_1932861)
October 15, 2024 18:44

Can the ‘Avoiding Fees’ section discuss what the cost structure is for Chase Private Client? If I understand correctly, aside from checking/savings the only qualifying fund options are “Qualifying J.P. Morgan Wealth Management non-retirement accounts (opened in a Chase branch and serviced by a J.P. Morgan Private Client Advisor)”. From what I can tell (warning: possible misinformation) the AUM for JP Morgan managing those is 0.5% for accounts with $250,000. So for $250K of funds, a year’s AUM is $1250 and the bonus is $2K. Maybe there are ways to keep the AUM down by getting your money out of something charging AUM as soon as the bonus posts? (money needs to be in 90d and accounts need to be open 40 more days for bonus to post) But this seems to stressful for my tastes.

Jay
Jay (@guest_1933155)
October 16, 2024 09:16

Read comments on the regular (JPM) full service brokerage account that is a commission orientation relationship. Then don’t do anything comissionable. Basic stock and ETF trading is free on web and app.

David
David (@guest_1930030)
October 10, 2024 19:42

I meet with a CPC banker today, but he think that self-direct brokerage account is what I already have, so the only way to get the bonus is to open up a personal advisor account or chase private client advisor account. Which means that I have to call them for trading. Can some one help to send me a link to a specific chase brokerage account that still allow me to do the self-direct but meet the bonus requirement. Chase website don’t make this easy and I think either the CPC banker that I meet with have no clue, or he didn’t want to do it.

Jay
Jay (@guest_1930090)
October 10, 2024 21:51

It’s not the CPC banker who opens the account. It’s the investment advisor. There’s plenty of comments that talk about the “full service” brokerage account under JPMorgan which is NOT the Chase self-directed account / You Invest.

https://investment.jpmorgan.com/securities/account-types#ba

David
David (@guest_1930119)
October 10, 2024 22:33

So do I just mention that I want a full-service brokerage account, but the investment advisor only show me the type of account that he can open, he even try to call some one for me, but he said there is no other way. I see some where in the thread below mention about premium deposit, but not sure how that will work. Any suggestion?

Jay
Jay (@guest_1930586)
October 11, 2024 15:43

Have you done the Wells Fargo Premier checking bonus for $250K? That’s simpler. The CPC bonus using an investment account requires more finesse and a cooperative investment advisor.

Just coming out saying I want a full-service brokerage account is not necessarily going to yield a result. The investment advisors want commissionable relationships or advisory relationships with an AUM % fee. You have to look worthwhile to most advisors. They don’t want a customer who won’t generate revenue.

David
David (@guest_1931265)
October 12, 2024 20:58

I have finished the Wells Fargo one already, just looking for the next one that I can use to earn some money

Jay
Jay (@guest_1931491)
October 13, 2024 11:59

For CPC then you option is find another investment/financial advisor that will open the (full-service) brokerage account. At least hint you’re open to advice and recommendations. Don’t just say I refuse to pay fees and want to do everything myself. Else they’re like there is no point here as I wont generate any revenue.

Larry
Larry (@guest_1943867)
November 3, 2024 18:25

So – for sure – if you do not do any trading there are no hidden fees of any kind with this brokerage?

Jay
Jay (@guest_1947165)
November 8, 2024 13:03

This has been commented on multiple times and you can look at the fee schedule yourself if you’re skeptical.

Howard
Howard (@guest_1926295)
October 5, 2024 16:16

Just to confirm, if my last “enrollment date” is Sept 2023, then I am eligible to do this offer again now (regardless of whether I am still a CPC), correct?

If I am still CPC, I can just downgrade it to a regular checking, and then upgrade and apply the coupon sometime later?

Thanks for commenting!

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1926408)
October 5, 2024 19:38

You don’t even need to downgrade/upgrade, you can just stay CPC the whole time. (unless you mean you want to use money that’s already at Chase, withdrawing it before you upgrade)

Howard
Howard (@guest_1926421)
October 5, 2024 19:58

Ah, you mean I can just enroll the coupon and bring in another 150k/250k of assets to claim the bonus, while staying at CPC the whole time?

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1926466)
October 5, 2024 22:20

Yea, the fine print explicitly says it: “if you already have a CPC Checking account, skip to step number two”

Kate
Kate (@guest_1942172)
October 31, 2024 23:42

Good point, I didn’t pay attention to this terms before. I thought you can only enroll the offer by opening a new CPC account or upgrading to the CPC account. I guess even you already have the CPC account, you still need to go to the branch to enroll the coupon. Did you or anyone do this way successfully?

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1942681)
November 1, 2024 15:56

Yes, I did it that way. I didn’t even need to go into a branch; I scheduled an appointment, but the banker called & emailed me first, so I gave him the coupon code and he applied it without me going into the branch. The bonus posted for me.

Kate
Kate (@guest_1942696)
November 1, 2024 16:11

Good to know. Thank you!

TJ
TJ (@guest_1945862)
November 6, 2024 21:38

How long did you wait before doing it the second time?

sg77
sg77 (@guest_1945910)
November 6, 2024 22:58
  TJ

29 months after my first coupon enrollment. So I don’t have a good data point for the minimum amount of time you can wait. The terms when I did it said “You can receive only one Chase Private Client Checking new money bonus in a 12-month period from the last bonus coupon enrollment date.” The new terms are less clear: “This offer cannot be used in combination with any other Chase Private Client Checking offer within a 12-month period.”

Jay
Jay (@guest_1925141)
October 3, 2024 22:31

Extended to 1/22/25 like the checking/savings bonus.

Nuri
Nuri (@guest_1931753)
October 13, 2024 23:28

Jay, how do you go about churning the bonus? I’ve downgraded my CPC after meeting the bonus qualifications so now I have to go again in branch and convince them to upgrade the account and attach the bonus.
I still have the brokerage account open at Chase.

Thanks!

Jay
Jay (@guest_1931759)
October 13, 2024 23:44

Not sure what you’re asking. Cool down is based on enrollment date. So wait and then open/upgrade when eligible for the CPC offer enrollment again. Having the JPM brokerage account already removes a lot of friction.

Nuri
Nuri (@guest_1932060)
October 14, 2024 14:43

The account open/upgrade has to be done in person, in branch through the CPC person. It’s the human that I’ve struggled in the past – the banker might push back and refuse to do it if they sense churning, regardless of the terms.

What has been your experience? Any advice on how to navigate this situation?

Cheers!

Jay
Jay (@guest_1932065)
October 14, 2024 14:55

IME, the CPC banker tends to be less obstructive than an investment advisor for the brokerage aspect. Just say you want to upgrade to CPC for the “better” service and perks. If you already have the brokerage account it will likely just continue to be assigned to the person you have now or transferred to the office that is near your address (or where you opened CPC checking).

You may have an in-person interaction with the investment advisor if they’re in the office while you do the CPC upgrade. Demur and say you’ll want to do a follow-up later as you’re a bit pressed for time.

Personally, I wait to double-up with the high total checking/savings bonus + CPC as a combo. I don’t churn the CPC bonus ASAP.

Nuri
Nuri (@guest_1932660)
October 15, 2024 14:01

Thanks, will see how it goes. I’m aiming to do the CPC first and then figure out the total+saving bonus – I kept thinking of the old terms of 24 months between coupons and still kept the account around so I’d have to wait 90 days first.

Plus after having issues with the local branch around CPC after total/savings I’m caution – don’t want to argue with them again that the two coupons are compatible.

Jay
Jay (@guest_1932892)
October 15, 2024 19:25

IMO do checking/savings opening first as it is self-service. Then when you have CPC upgraded (or secondary totally new checking account) it doesn’t really matter about discussing whether it is compatible. But if you really want confirmation, your CPC banker can access all your enrolled bonuses and show what is active.

Last go around I did total checking/savings opening and within days upgraded to CPC. I got all my bonuses as expected.

summer96w2
summer96w2 (@guest_1918588)
September 24, 2024 17:12

Direct link to offer  goes to checking page. No bonus info found. Is offer expired or link fix needed?

Jay
Jay (@guest_1921589)
September 29, 2024 15:51

Works fine. It’s a caching or locality-based ineligibility issue most likely.

JoSu
JoSu (@guest_1910802)
September 12, 2024 21:14

I was actually thinking of moving my brokerage account to Chase permanently. But today after I upgraded my checking with a CPC banker, the brokerage adviser refused to open the brokerage account unless I chose one of the funds he recommended and transfer my money in. I told him I have mutual funds and wanted a in-kind transfer. He didn’t care.

I may downgrade my checking and keep my brokerage account as is.

joanne
joanne (@guest_1904242)
September 3, 2024 06:49

If you participate in CPC offer can you also participate in the $900 checking/savings account offer too? Assuming yes since these are two different departments.

Jay
Jay (@guest_1922288)
September 30, 2024 22:36

Yes, open the regular Chase checking / savings first. Then upgrade the checking to CPC.