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Grateful
Grateful (@guest_2041035)
April 9, 2025 08:54

The 4 highest APYs for accounts opened through Maxmyinterest as of 4/8 are Veritex Community Bank 4.05%*, Customers Bank 4.04%, Fieldpoint Private 4.03%*, UFB Direct, a division of Axos Bank 4.01%.

Grateful
Grateful (@guest_2041043)
April 9, 2025 09:09

Corrected: The 4 highest APYs for accounts opened through Maxmyinterest as of 4/8 are Veritex Community Bank 4.05%*, Customers Bank 4.04%, Fieldpoint Private 4.03%*, UFB Direct, a division of Axos Bank 4.01%.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2041047)
April 9, 2025 09:11

What did you change? Everything looks the same to me in both comments.

Grateful
Grateful (@guest_2041058)
April 9, 2025 09:19

I had edited the original to fix it, but at that time it didn’t look like it stuck. Guess I need to be patient and trust it next time if I do an edit.

An
An (@guest_2071021)
June 2, 2025 11:13

I was thinking of opening Yield Shield Savings, but should I just use MMI to avoid their 25k balance requirements? I am mainly interested in their ACH capabilities as a hub account like #1979432 .

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2071183)
June 2, 2025 16:43
  An

An,

Before taking the plunge with using Customers as a hub, I would recommend that you read through all of the comments starting with this comment: #2039691 . Don’t say that I didn’t warn you! 😉

An
An (@guest_2071189)
June 2, 2025 16:48

Eric 🔗 Hmm I saw some of those before, but didn’t think about how that kind of closure affects Chex/EWS.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2071194)
June 2, 2025 17:02
  An

An,

It’s unlikely that a closure like that would have a negative effect on your Chex. However, it’s very possible that Customers would put a negative mark on your EWS if they were to close your account.

midas89,

In your experience, does Customers report to EWS?

007
007 (@guest_2071197)
June 2, 2025 17:04

Yes customers reports to EWS

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2071199)
June 2, 2025 17:07

Eric 🔗 I confirm what the new James Bond 007 posted, that Customers Bank frustratingly posts all of my transactions to EWS. I hate looking at my EWS reports where I also see all of my Chase Bank transactions, one after the other. I know…the answer is to stop looking. 😀

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2071203)
June 2, 2025 17:10

Another choice is to close both of your Customers and Chase accounts. 😉

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2071201)
June 2, 2025 17:07

007,

Now I am embarrassed. A few minutes ago, I warned An in the HY post about Max by showing them my comment #1889258 . Now I do remember that I mentioned EWS in said comment. 😳

I am sure that you remember all of the discussion that you and I had back then about that account. What a good decision that I made not to sign up. 😉

007
007 (@guest_2071206)
June 2, 2025 17:12

No worries. Happy to help!

An
An (@guest_2071208)
June 2, 2025 17:19

I applied to Max and they couldn’t confirm my info. Maybe that was a blessing in disguise. The ACH speed is so tempting though… I’ll have to give this some more thought.

Thanks Eric 🔗 007 midas89

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2071226)
June 2, 2025 17:51
  An

An Yes, perhaps a blessing in disguise. I assume your credit reports were unfrozen, as was Chex just in case. I know that same-day ACH is incredible, and I would be extremely unhappy to ever lose it, but keep in mind that I am actually using my Customers Bank account as a primary Bill Pay, etc., and I’m keeping a substantial amount of money there. I am not just using it as a hub. And as Eric reminded today, some have reported that they lost their Customers Bank account because of just using it as a hub.

Eric 🔗 I laughed at your cute reply elsewhere that perhaps after someone complimented the name Eric, that it might not be you specifically. It’s always about you, positive & negative, due to your fame. 😀 Oh, and you came so close to inspiring me to not Chase what matters anymore, or to discontinue being one of many Customers because of EWS reporting. But then I realized that in this specific case EWS really stands for Eric Wasn’t Serious. 🙂

An
An (@guest_2071227)
June 2, 2025 17:56

midas89 I couldn’t even get approved for the Max account, so I didn’t get to apply for any bank accounts. Credit reports were unfrozen. Chex was frozen because I read #1985533

Grateful
Grateful (@guest_2021967)
March 13, 2025 09:02

The 4 highest APYs for accounts opened through Maxmyinterest as of 3/12 are Veritex Community Bank 4.25%*, Customers Bank 4.02%, UFB Direct, a division of Axos Bank 4.01%, Fieldpoint Private 3.92%*.

fdic
fdic (@guest_2018679)
March 7, 2025 11:56

Does anyone know if Customers offers free checks for the checking account? thanks

007
007 (@guest_2018689)
March 7, 2025 12:02

I thought their checking account was in branch only. Or do you already have one?

fdic
fdic (@guest_2018796)
March 7, 2025 14:17

I got mine online in late 2022. I started with max and then got hyds and I think I got checking together with that. I recently started to use Customers as my main account for everything (was using Citi so far), so thats why was wondering about checks

007
007 (@guest_2018893)
March 7, 2025 15:26

Got it, thanks so much!

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2018927)
March 7, 2025 15:49

007 No free checks allowed when I opened my Customers Bank checking account. So I just paid about $6 to SuperValueChecks online for an order of plain blue checks.

fdic
fdic (@guest_2018957)
March 7, 2025 16:11

midas89 Thanks, made a note of that website, $2 + $4 shipping for 40 checks is pretty good. 40 will last forever.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2018966)
March 7, 2025 16:17

Fdic You’re welcome. That’s the same as I did. Like you, I hardly write any checks. The last check I wrote was to just get a small amount of money into my Roger account the day it was opened.

Thanks for the Roger update. I am sure you saw Frugal posted he or she was declined from getting a temporary Roger ACH increase. We’ll see if the same happens to you, of course.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2013310)
February 27, 2025 12:58

Customers Bank Max Savings Account increased from 3.91% APY to 4.02% APY today. (Still remains very disappointing, of course.)

Grateful
Grateful (@guest_1993567)
January 29, 2025 13:46

The 4 highest APYs for accounts opened through Maxmyinterest as of today are Veritex Community Bank 4.34%*, UFB Direct, a division of Axos Bank 4.31%*, Fieldpoint Private 4.02%*, Customers Bank 3.91%.

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1991655)
January 25, 2025 17:15

PaulinTexas The linking by account number by Plaid is gone! It seems just a test/tease that you caught?

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1991658)
January 25, 2025 17:21

vic torr After seeing your posting above, I logged into Customers Bank online, and the ability to link with just routing number & account number is also no longer an option on my screen. If it stays gone permanently, thank goodness for PaulinTexas posting his comment yesterday so I could at least get the account I linked yesterday.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1991660)
January 25, 2025 17:30

vic torr Well that’s disappointing 🙁

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1985533)
January 15, 2025 08:40

Just opened a new Customers Bank account through MMI as a joint account with P2 with frozen Chex for both. The account opened with no Chex pull. Is there anything else I need to do after the 30 days waiting period to enable same-day ACH or will it be enabled automatically? At what point can I close my MMI account or should I just keep it open without the optimization step?

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1985540)
January 15, 2025 08:52

ACH should show up automatically. What did you use for the MMI checking requirement?

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1985570)
January 15, 2025 09:37

US Bank checking

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1985636)
January 15, 2025 11:03

Hmm, I was able to link my external account to Customers AND submit a same day pull transfer request. Wasn’t this supposed to be blocked for the first 30 days? PaulinTexas

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1985647)
January 15, 2025 11:18

Could be that Customers Bank rescinded the 30-day delay policy after they saw that only allowing Plaid direct linking to confirm external accounts and not allowing trial deposits reduced the chance of fraud. I don’t know for sure, of course.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1985662)
January 15, 2025 11:39

gchope2k6 🔗 That’s fantastic! Maybe they have a different arrangement with MMI?because the 30 day wait is still in their new account disclosures. It’s also great that they opened with Chex frozen!

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1985671)
January 15, 2025 11:47

CB has been lenient with Chex for long since they are very involved with EWS, including reporting every transaction on the account!

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1986212)
January 16, 2025 07:28

Oh wow, that was fast. I did a test with $10, pulled them from my other bank yesterday at 11:01 AM into the CB joint account and pushed them to P2s Wells Fargo at 4:39 PM. The amount shows as Pending in WF as of this morning. Anyone knows the same-day transfer windows? Would it be possible to pull/push an amount the same day? This would be a great way to transfer from P1 to P2 and vice versa using a CB joint account in between. Would you risk trying this with 250k and a new CB account? Wonder if there is a risk of extended holds for larger amounts… Thanks again

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1986469)
January 16, 2025 13:27

gchope2k6 🔗 Here are the transfer windows that I’ve identified all EST.

Same Day – M-F

AM Windows – before 8 & 9 AM – funds arrive between 12:00 – 1:00 PM
PM Windows – after 9 AM to 2 PM – funds arrive around 6:30 PM

I push/pull the same day all the time because there are no holds on pulled funds. That’s one of the primary reasons I use CB because you can move funds between accounts w/o losing any interest. The $250K daily/$1.5M Monthly limits are based on the combined CB scheduled push/pulls. This means you have to plan out larger transfers.

  • $125K push/pull same day ($250K total)
  • $250K push or pull same day

Let’s say you need to pull $250K from Bank A and push it to Bank B. Based on the limits above it would take two days; however, there is a work around using an overnight pull. Why? because the pull is scheduled the prior afternoon (2:30PM to 7:00 PM), and it will count towards that day’s limit. In the morning the $250K will be at CB and you can then push out the $250K same day.

Overnight Window – After 2:30 PM to 7 PM

Useful if your pulling funds – counts towards the current day transfer limits and funds are sitting in your account in the morning. It’s a win-win because you don’t lose any interest, and the funds are available to cover any scheduled debits or to transfer out in the AM window.

After 7:00 PM Window – you can schedule same-day transfers that will be processed the next business day during the 8 AM window. So, any time after 7 PM on Friday through 8 AM the next business day, you can schedule same-day transfers in advance. Very helpful when you have a lot of transfers to do so you aren’t rushing against the clock in the morning to get everything scheduled.

Another note: P1 & P2 need their own logon credentials to link individual accounts to push/pull funds. The CB daily/monthly limits are shared & based on the account, not the individual profiles.

Considering they had a 30-day moratorium on transfers, I’d be cautious the first month, but you have the ability to do same-day transfers now, so use it!! If it were me, I’d schedule a $250K transfer just to test the waters, but I wouldn’t go hog wild with a lot of large transfers the first month.

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1986502)
January 16, 2025 13:52

“Overnight Window – After 2:30 PM to 7 PM
… the funds are available to cover any scheduled debits…” –
Did you have much experience about this? For example covering a scheduled credit card payment that normally post very early in the day?
I have always worried about such. Any DP is appreciated.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1986545)
January 16, 2025 14:53

vic torr Yes, I have used this with credit card payments but mostly with T-Bills. Like you, I was nervous about doing it. But I took the plunge and confirmed that it works. The overnight ACH credits are processed before overnight ACH debits. So, it works like a charm and I use it when needed.

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1986544)
January 16, 2025 14:52

PaulinTexas this is awesome information as always, thanks again!!! I only need to do a single 250k transfer from my account to P2s at Wells Fargo for the premier bonus. I was planning on wiring those, but if you think there won’t be hold issues in the first 30 days, I can just give it a try, just don’t want to lock 250k at CB and miss my WF premier window

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1986580)
January 16, 2025 15:53

gchope2k6 🔗 Yes, I get it, I wouldn’t want to miss out on the bonus either. Like I said, CB provisionally credits a pull, making it immediately available (based on arrival window) and has never put a hold on any funds.

However, I’d definitely test/verify that CB hasn’t imposed a limit on what you can/can’t transfer. To do that, I’d schedule a $250K pull, using a future date. If it is approved, it will appear as a pending “Authorized” transfer. As long as it’s in this status you cancel it or make changes to it. To do that go to E-Banking Activity tab, click on the 3 vertical dots. Now you can “Cancel” it. The “Edit” option lets you change the “Amount”, the “From Account” or “To Account” or even the “Send On” date. I have fat fingers and have used both “Cancel” & “Edit” options.

So, with all that said, you need to do what is most comfortable for you.

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1986868)
January 16, 2025 21:31

No luck… maximum I could schedule was 3000… so there still seem to be some limits in place for the first 30 days 🙁

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1986948)
January 16, 2025 23:21

gchope2k6 🔗 It’s good that you tested. Now you can just execute your original plan. Still, at least you can connect banks and do some transfers, although $3,000 is pretty sad ☹️

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1979421)
January 5, 2025 10:36

I don’t have a Customers Bank account. Do I need to open one through Maxmyinterest to get same-day ACH with high limits? Or would opening the account directly will work too? It seems that opening with Customers is currently 4.23% APY while through Maxmyinterest is only 4.11% APY. Thank you

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1979431)
January 5, 2025 11:15

gchope2k6 🔗 You can open up the Yield Shield Savings directly.

  • They pull Chex if you don’t currently have an account
  • $25K opening deposit ($50K max) & $25K balance required to get the interest rate
  • Inital funding won’t be available for 10 business days
  • 30 day waiting period before you can use external transfer (ACH) capabilities
  • Can only connect banks via Plaid, no trail deposit method
gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1979432)
January 5, 2025 11:19

PaulinTexas thank you. Will opening it through Maxmyinterest skip the Chex pull and the minimum 25k balance requirements? I mostly need a good HUB account with fast and high ACH limits, so I can live with the lower APY as I am planning to use this just to move money back and forth between accounts…

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1979446)
January 5, 2025 11:39

gchope2k6 🔗 Chex will still get pulled, but there is no minimum balance requirement. Although most banks can connect to Customers via Plaid, there are some that don’t. However, it’s still a great Hub account 🙂

An
An (@guest_2070425)
June 1, 2025 04:02

PaulinTexas Can the initial deposit be pushed and be available immediately? Ideally, I’d be able to open the account, add it to Treasury Direct, and push and pull the deposit via a T-Bill redemption/purchase scheduled for the same date.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2070606)
June 1, 2025 13:08
  An

An I don’t have a CB Yield Shield Savings Account so I don’t know if they’ll let you push the initial $25K deposit but I think you have to provide a funding source where CB can pull in the initial deposit.

On the good news front, the CB version of Plaid now lets you manually connect banks via the plaid micro deposit. It’s pushes .01 to the bank with a three-letter code that you use to activate the account on CB.

CB is my main Hub and Lending Club Bank is my alternative Hub because of the $250K daily transfer limits in & out and free domestic wires. I don’t mind the three day hold unless I’m moving funds to another account with a higher rate which is why CB is so great….you can pull in the morning (or schedule the prior evening after 1400) and push in the afternoon. No loss in interest.

Kelly
Kelly (@guest_2070624)
June 1, 2025 13:25

PaulinTexas, I had thought that LendingClub Bank only offered free wire transfers when receiving them. I had thought they charged 18 dollars if you send a domestic wire from LCB. Thanks for reporting that LCB offers free domestic wires if sending from LCB.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2070640)
June 1, 2025 13:50

Kelly You’re welcome! In fact, on 5/29, I wired $50K, via LCB, to a brokerage account and the funds arrived in time to execute my first trade. Fast & free.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2070684)
June 1, 2025 15:19

It’s easy to have the impression that LendingClub Bank charges $18 for sending a wire because they do charge this amount for wiring from business accounts. Fortunately, not for personal accounts, as The Man in Texas kindly informed.

In Texas wide, a man named Paul,
Declared, “Wire transfers cost nothing at all!”
A financial sage, with news so grand,
Free money movement, across the land.

Hey, PaulinTexas, this past week, at CB, I manually linked my LCB to CB, and I was hoping the 3-letter verification code would be PIT as a tribute to you. Sadly, the code was YNF, which I believe was Plaid’s way of telling me that I’m not funny.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2070696)
June 1, 2025 15:49

midas89 You are a real card, a poet and yes, even funny 😃

An
An (@guest_2070709)
June 1, 2025 16:10

The FAQ says:

“There are several ways to fund your new savings account. You may:

  • Transfer money from your account at another bank.
  • Choose a transfer of up to $50,000 for a one-time initial funding transfer during the account opening process. Keep in mind that this type of transfer will not be available for withdrawal for 10 business days from the transfer receipt date.
  • If you have an existing account with Customers Bank you may transfer funds from that account to your Customers Bank savings account.
  • Customers Bank routing number is 031302971. Refer to your account disclosures for complete terms and conditions.”

This suggests to me it is probably an option… midas89 do you have any insight on pushing the initial deposit?

I was using Fidelity as a hub for the most part (also free domestic wires), but some changes last year make them not so good anymore.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2070723)
June 1, 2025 16:38
  An

PaulinTexas I would not choose Customers Bank Yield Shield to do what An wants to do if it were me, especially considering the fairly recent call out of CB for not protecting against money laundering.

I would choose LendingClub Bank first. An could start with opening checking account just to get everything set up (but of course could do savings account only, but I would do the checking first as it is designed to be liquid, of course).

Should get instant approval hopefully, like mine. I chose $25 to get started. Once I had acct. number, I wired in money same day so I would have available balance to work with if I wanted to do trial deposits where they need to pull them back. Those funds wired in were available to use immediately, no hold time at all.

Then An could have Treasury Direct push money into LCB. That money also no hold time once arrived. Then can have Treasury Direct pull the money back out at any time, etc.

If An wants to make decent interest while money sits at LCB, he can also open LevelUp, as you know. Only minimum of $250 monthly deposit to get the 4.40% rate, of course.

An
An (@guest_2070818)
June 1, 2025 21:46

midas89 I am interested in CB for their speed and decent APY. I was just wondering of others had experience with pushing the initial deposit for immediate availability instead of pulling it and going through the 10-day hold.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2070838)
June 1, 2025 22:32
  An

An I know that you know that under normal circumstances, if we push money into CB via ACH transfer from our external bank account or from Treasury Direct, or if a wire transfer is sent into CB, there is no hold time whatsoever once that money posts.

You’re asking if there would be a separate “new-account-opening” special hold period at first for pushed-in money to finance the account. There absolutely wasn’t one years ago when I opened up their original HYSA. But sometime later Customers Bank instituted some new anti-fraud policies regarding new account openings.

I would hope that if LCB makes pushed-in money when financing a new account available immediately, so would Customers Bank. But I certainly would want to call in advance to verify the latest policy if I wanted or needed to use that pushed-in money right away.

Sorry I misunderstood the whole thing. And sorry I tagged Paul inTexas by mistake instead of you in my prior reply.

An
An (@guest_2071546)
June 3, 2025 11:01

midas89 I’ve gone ahead and opened a LCB Rewards Checking account with a $25 deposit through manual linking (I found out during the application that this will become the LevelUp Checking with $0 minimum opening deposit on 6/17/25). I answered yes to expecting transactions to exceed 20k/day and 600k/mo.

I’ll guess I’ll open the LevelUp Savings later today to get these 30-day new account restrictions out of the way.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2071549)
June 3, 2025 11:07
  An

An I think you made a good decision to open up LCB.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2071661)
June 3, 2025 14:41
  An

I’m just curious, why do you need to transfer that kind of money?

An
An (@guest_2071663)
June 3, 2025 14:42

I almost certainly won’t do 600k/mo on a regular basis, but might need to at some point… Should I have answered no?

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2071671)
June 3, 2025 14:52
  An

Personally, I’ve always selected a much lower amount for accounts that I’ve opened. However, I would guess that it’s better to overestimate your use than to underestimate it but what do I know?

An
An (@guest_2071695)
June 3, 2025 15:16

Yeah I’m not sure if it’s better or worse. I hope I didn’t put more scrutiny on the account.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1979726)
January 5, 2025 22:34

gchope2k6 🔗 A possible option for people who want big money ACH transfer amounts while waiting for the Customers Bank month-long ACH lockout to expire: One could open a CIT Bank Savings Account at the same time as a Customers Bank account.

It would be nice if Customers Bank would adopt CIT Bank’s continued policy of allowing trial deposits as an option to link external accounts, and not making people wait a month before they can even utilize ACH transfers.

It would be nice if CIT Bank would adopt Customers Bank’s policy of the option for same-day ACH, and not having to wait 5 business days before money pulled into CIT can be withdrawn. (At least CIT will pay interest during the hold time, and they do offer next-day ACH transfer speed.) (No hold time if money is pushed into CIT.)

CIT Bank offers free wire transfers ($1,000 minimum transfer amount) if one’s balance is $25K+. CIT ACH Limits: $250K per day push, $500k per day pull, no monthly maximum.
ACH Transactions per month: Unlimited
Number of linked accounts: 10
CIT current APY is 4.35% for balances $5,000+.

I was fortunate to open my Customers Bank accounts before the month-long ACH lockout for newbies, and before they forced Plaid-direct external account linking without the trial deposit option. But I’ve run into the frustrating problem of having opened up a new account that is not listed with Plaid, so I cannot link Customers Bank to it. I have to use my CIT Bank account to do the transfers instead.

I hope your opening up of your new Customers Bank account goes well for you.

gchope2k6 🔗
gchope2k6 🔗 (@guest_1979802)
January 6, 2025 07:47

midas89 I do have a CIT account, but like you said, it does not have same-day ACH, that’s why I think Customers is better as a HUB account and want to open it

fdic
fdic (@guest_1978490)
January 3, 2025 13:59

Wondering if anyone set up any ACH today? My pull from LC showed up very early this morning, I think I checked around 2 or 3 this morning. So I took a risk and decided to push it out to the destination bank. It was debited immediately (as usual) but hasnt shown up at the destination yet. I hope I dont lose the weekend interest 🙂

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1978500)
January 3, 2025 14:14

Fdic All of yesterday’s Same Day ACHs processed overnight. I did submit 10+ pulls after 11:00 AM EST, which is in the last Same Day ACH window. So, your push should arrive early evening – maybe around 6:30 PM EST, give or take.

fdic
fdic (@guest_1978503)
January 3, 2025 14:17

Thank you as always!

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1978510)
January 3, 2025 14:30

Fdic My pleasure 🙂 Did your WMPXX order get executed?

fdic
fdic (@guest_1978520)
January 3, 2025 14:39

Yes, I woke up in the middle of the night for some reason. Checked the Customers transfer status first and that had shown up and then checked the WF account and everything had settled and it was showing I have 226.5k of WMPXX. In hindsight, it was good that my Customers limit ran out the previous week and I wasnt relying on that to the transfer to Wells 🙂
Thanks for answering all my questions related to that, I know I asked a lot.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1978451)
January 3, 2025 12:54

Today, I inquired again about the lack of the trial deposits option when trying to link an external account that is not listed with Plaid. I was told they had a meeting about re-adding the feature and decided they will not add this option back. So, it appears the Plaid-instant-linking-only option is permanent. If you happen to have an account at a bank that is not listed in the Plaid list, it will be impossible to link your account at Customers in order to do ACH push or pulls.

JasonJ
JasonJ (@guest_1978471)
January 3, 2025 13:26

Amex savings is listed in Plaid but still could not be linked.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1978561)
January 3, 2025 15:26

Frustrating for sure, JasonJ. Customers Bank used to be a perfect hub bank until they eliminated the option to send the two trial deposits to successfully link any and all external bank and credit union accounts. They are still a great hub bank, just not perfect anymore for all people.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1990869)
January 24, 2025 09:44

midas89 Wanted to share the good news & to thank you for being persistent with Customers about Plaid & manual linking. Periodically I go to Plaid to see if an unsupported bank is now on the list. Today I tried using Penn (for Pennsylvania in PSECU), scrolled down to the bottom and there it was: “Link with account numbers”. Plaid will send a $.01 transaction to the account. My guess is they’ll leave it there & not pull it back but I can’t confirm until the process is complete. 🙂 Fdic gchope2k6 🔗

fdic
fdic (@guest_1990872)
January 24, 2025 09:51

Cool, thanks for the good news, that means we can link Zynlo now. I guess enough people complained for them to make the change

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1990939)
January 24, 2025 11:29

Unfortunately Fidelity still can not be linked.

fdic
fdic (@guest_1990943)
January 24, 2025 11:36

vic torr Just curious what happens when you try? I just tried Zynlo and it said it will send the trial deposits

fdic
fdic (@guest_1990948)
January 24, 2025 11:39

I just checked my list of external accounts and I only have Fidelity CMA and that is already linked and I dont remember if I linked that before or after Plaid

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1990975)
January 24, 2025 12:10

Fidelity used to work with Plaid until sometime 2023, stopped citing security reasons.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1990945)
January 24, 2025 11:36

vic torr Is the account a brokerage or checking account? Where did it fail? Entering the Routing number? Also, the name on the account must match exactly or it will reject (at least that’s the impression I get from the wording).

vic torr
vic torr (@guest_1990971)
January 24, 2025 12:07

Just show “Something went wrong” after clicking the “Authorize” button.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1990957)
January 24, 2025 11:50

PaulinTexas Thank you very much, Paul, for sharing the good news. It’s appreciated. Like you, I too was periodically checking the Plaid box over at Customers to see if an unsupported bank was added to the list, including just earlier this week. Not that long ago I also called Customers Bank Digital Banking Dept. and was told they had a meeting and decided that the trial deposit option was not going to return. I asked to log my complaint. I am surprised it’s back, but happy, of course. Perhaps quite a few others also complained/requested.

Regarding pulling the penny back: Earlier this week I did the $.01 via Plaid at another bank to link that bank with 3 different externals, and the $.01 was not pulled back for those. Thank you again.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1991147)
January 24, 2025 16:00

PaulinTexas At 8:26am PST this morning, thanks to your posting, I initiated the manual linking at Customers Bank to an external bank acct. of mine I was previously unable to do. Just about 4 hours 20 minutes later, I received notice from the external bank that the $.01 arrived. There is a 3-Letter Code listed with the $.01 deposit transaction. I put those 3 letters into my Customers Bank online, and the linking succeeded. The $.01 has not been taken back.

Assuming someone at Customers Bank occasionally reads the comments about them at sites like DoC, I’d like to express thank you for restoring the manual linking option, and for the same-day delivery when we get the requests in before the cut-off time.

fdic
fdic (@guest_1991154)
January 24, 2025 16:07

H midas89 I just came back here to report the same. To me this looks like a new functionality from Plaid and if thats true I hope it shows up with other banks thats use Plaid as well. I was able to link my Zynlo checking and saving

midas89
midas89 (@guest_1991159)
January 24, 2025 16:14

Fdic Hi back. You might be right that it was Plaid themselves that added the new manual linking with $.01 option at Customers Bank. If it remains an option, I guess we can dislike Plaid a little less, while still choosing never to utilize Plaid instant linking, of course.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1991176)
January 24, 2025 16:44

midas89 Yes, mine were also deposited today and are now linked. This was the same process Plaid used to link my HSBC account.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2050893)
April 28, 2025 16:39

PaulinTexas Firstly, best of luck to you in June. I hope that you are not “kneeding” any extra dough to cover your surgical expenses. 😀 Seriously, though, I hope all goes well.

Secondly, I am glad these words are at Customers Bank, Online Banking, Manage External Accounts:

“If you are attempting to verify the Micro-Deposits for one of the external accounts that you have previously requested to be linked through Micro-Deposits, but do not see it here, it is likely that your Micro-Deposits have expired. Please resubmit the external account.”

And also the the words after clicking Link Via Instant, Continue As Guest, scrolling down and seeing Link with Account Numbers

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2050970)
April 28, 2025 20:37

midas89 You’re a real card 😄and thanks for the well wishes.

That’s some exciting news!! I wonder if this is now permanent. If it is I still think it’s because of your persistence.

Just submitted a .01 micro deposit request for my Roger Savings account. I’d like to eliminate LCB as the middleman.

Thanks for the great news!!! Fdic look what Midas89 found!!

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2050975)
April 28, 2025 20:49

PaulinTexas You’re welcome. A rep said it should be permanent, but you and I both know we sometimes receive an answer from a rep that ultimately winds up being inaccurate. I put in for 3 new externals that arrived at their destination within just a few hours Same-Day today. What I like is that the microdeposit that is sent is not pulled back. One of my new externals is to a credit card that allows payments to be made via regular ACH transfers. Thus, I can get a payment to them Same-Day from Customers Bank if needed, versus longer via traditional Bill Pay. And additionally, the fact Customers doesn’t not pull the microdeposit back, there’s no risk of anything going wrong during the linking to a CC. Long live Customers Bank’s excellent policies.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2050987)
April 28, 2025 21:15

midas89 I’m used to letting credit cards pull from my account versus bill pay or I pay off the balances myself. I like the idea of being able to send an ACH to make a CC payment. What CC allows this?

Now Customers Bank is back to its old greatness!

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2050993)
April 28, 2025 21:22

PaulinTexas Logix Credit Union Mastercard. No foreign transaction fee. They give people a specific permanent account number tied to the card (it’s completely different than the Mastercard account number for charges), so that ACH payments in are possible.

I know that many people have their CC’s pull the money from their accounts. I always preferred doing the payments myself. And I often make payments even before the statement gets generated, especially if it’s a large balance that will lower my FICO score.

fdic
fdic (@guest_2051815)
April 30, 2025 02:48

Learnt something new today, never heard of anything like this before

fdic
fdic (@guest_2051814)
April 30, 2025 02:48

PaulinTexas Hi Paul yes, midas told me about this too and I am as excited as you are 🙂

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2053745)
May 2, 2025 20:21

PaulinTexas Fdic The following is just a preliminary heads up. Sadly, I did not read the following until after business hours today, Friday, thus I was unable to obtain any much-needed specifics, such as what would the monetary limits be (Chase Bank offers $5,000 maximum RTP without charging any fee, as one example), when or even if sending out RTP will start, or even if it really would apply to our specific personal accounts, and what kind of advanced agreement would be required, whether it is similar to a Docusign or if it would be something agreed to via online banking.

Wording inside the Consumer Disclosures have been added today, 5/2/25, that were not present prior to today:

“Instant Payments (RTP/FedNow) – Outgoing $1.00 per transfer”

“Customers Bank is a participant in the FedNow® Service operated by the Federal Reserve Banks and the RTP® network operated by The Clearing House. These networks facilitate instant payments 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year (“Instant Payments Networks”). Through these Instant Payments Networks, you may receive inbound payments credited to your eligible deposit accounts maintained at Customers Bank. Unless you have entered into a separate agreement with Customers Bank specifically authorizing you to send outbound instant payments, you may not send or otherwise initiate any outbound payments from your deposit accounts maintained at Customers Bank via the Instant Payments Networks.”

Don’t bother calling the middleman customer service reps that Customers Bank contracts with, either tonight or over the weekend, as they are unaware of this new info shown in the disclosures. The only way to get more info on this is by calling during regular business hours, Monday through Friday, of course.

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2053823)
May 2, 2025 23:43

PaulinTexas Fdic The following is just a preliminary heads up. Sadly, I did not read the following until after business hours today (Friday), thus I was unable to obtain any much-needed specifics, such as what would the monetary limits be (Chase Bank offers $5,000 maximum RTP without charging any fee, as one example), when or even if sending out RTP will start, or even if it really would apply to our specific personal accounts, and what kind of advanced agreement would be required, whether it is similar to a Docusign or if it would be something agreed to via online banking.

Wording inside the Consumer Disclosures have been added today, 5/2/25, that were not present prior to today:

“Instant Payments (RTP/FedNow) – O u t g o i n g $1.00 per transfer”

“Customers Bank is a participant in the FedNow® Service operated by the Federal Reserve Banks and the RTP® network operated by The Clearing House. These networks facilitate instant payments 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year (“Instant Payments Networks”). Through these Instant Payments Networks, you may receive i n b o u n d payments credited to your eligible deposit accounts maintained at Customers Bank. Unless you have entered into a separate agreement with Customers Bank specifically authorizing you to send o u t b o u n d instant payments, you may not send or otherwise initiate any o u t b o u n d payments from your deposit accounts maintained at Customers Bank via the Instant Payments Networks.”

Don’t bother calling the middleman customer service reps that Customers Bank contracts with, either tonight or over the weekend, as they are unaware of this new info shown in the disclosures. The only way to get more info on this is by calling during regular business hours, Monday through Friday, of course.

fdic
fdic (@guest_2053873)
May 3, 2025 03:09

Thanks midas89 This is some exciting news. I hope this catches on in the US banking system

I am wondering if these transfers are only for your own accounts like ACH or to anyone’s account like Wires?

I am hoping that they keep the free same day ACH as is 🙂

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2053931)
May 3, 2025 09:05

midas89 Thanks for the info 😊. So, do you have a tool, like follow that page, to monitor changes or is this something you do on a regular basis?

There have been very few instances, mostly caused by missing an ACH window, where I could have used an “instant payment” feature and in those instances, I would have gladly paid a $1.00 for the transfer. So, it would be an interesting feature, but one I wouldn’t use very often. I do like having another tool in the tool belt as long as the same day ACH doesn’t go away!

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2054020)
May 3, 2025 13:34

PaulinTexas Regular basis, since this bank is my primary for everything, including lots of Bill Pay that I initiate myself. (And I will absolutely continue posting any relevant changes here in this forum that might occur, of course.)

Well, look at you, really tooling up. My tool belt is so full, the last time I bent over, I accidentally built a small table. 🙂

Like you, I would also not mind paying the $1 for RTP when needed. I’m sure you already know that regarding RTP, the receiving bank has to be set up to receive, and not all banks have done so yet. I do RTP via Chase, which only allows a disappointing $5,000 maximum), and am disappointed that so many banks have not set up to accept RTP. Thus, there’s a chance that we will ultimately be disappointed, at least until more banks implement receiving RTP.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_2054054)
May 3, 2025 14:39

midas89 Very happy that you keep up on and share all the changes at Customers Bank 😀.

I wish I had your tool belt 🤑

midas89
midas89 (@guest_2055019)
May 5, 2025 10:54

PaulinTexas Fdic Disappointing update: Rep said RTP out would ultimately be for business accounts only. 🙁