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Sher
Sher (@guest_1898638)
August 24, 2024 11:15

Is there a way to get alerts for EWS hits similar to OnAlert for Chex?

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 24, 2024 16:37

My OPM data breach MyIDCare gives Financial Account Alerts for EWS, but not Chex.

However, I find it very spotty and only seems to work when opening at a bank where I have never had an account. For example, I know Chase and BofA pull EWS and I did not get alerts. I maintain CC’s with them. Even when it works, takes a few days to get the alert too.

I think there was one other service like this that someone had from a breach, but I don’t recall the name of the service. It was ieatdogfood DP, IIRC.

Sher
Sher (@guest_1898808)
August 24, 2024 17:55

Thanks for the info!

ieatdogfood
ieatdogfood (@guest_1898876)
August 24, 2024 22:29

I have so many redundant monitoring services, I don’t recall either unless you can give me a specific bank to look up and I can search my email alert archive.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 24, 2024 22:32

Oh fine… I will figure it out. I only have 30K emails to search though to find it. 🙂

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 25, 2024 00:44

Interestingly enough… As of Sept 2023, my P2 and I also enrolled in Experian IdentityWorks. I see nothing involving EWS accounts. Our subscriptions would have been from the MoveIt breach… Fulton Bank maybe? They Expire SEPT 2024… oh great!

So, just like MyIDCare, just depends on the package you got signed up for. (other people have MyIDCare for other than the OPM breach… and don’t get financial account monitoring, from what I am told)

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 25, 2024 00:58

Another possible conclusion… like I said about MyIDCare… the alert only gets triggered when the applicant is a truly new customer.

For example, I recently opened a Laurel Road account for a churn… reasonably certain they pulled EWS, and did not get a MyIDCare or Experian IdentityWorks notification.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 26, 2024 09:00

Earned IdentityWorks from the Sunflower Bank MoveIT breach…

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/contact-us/#comment-1675016

Voyager
Voyager (@guest_1927407)
October 7, 2024 14:25

I have Experian IDWorks, and I get an alert for almost everything including new accounts and contact info changes. For LR account I got below…

Reason: Pending
Secondary Matches: name, address, dob, phone
Financial Institution Name: KeyBank NA
Financial Institution Phone:800XXXXXXX
Inquiry Date: September XX, 2024
Account Opened Date: September XX, 2024
Notification ID: XXXXXX

Initially it used to give me a bit of pause every time I get the alert, because it comes with title “Financial Account Takeover”.

On a related note – I see some of the institutions pulling EWS report twice i.e. couple of days in a row. I noticed duplicate inquiries by Santander, Truist. Fidelity and Schwab seem to be inquiring monthly.

Any idea?

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/bank-america-100-checking-bonus-public-nationwide/#comment-1927232

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
October 7, 2024 14:43

Not sure what you are asking me.

Since you are the one that made the changes, no need for alarm.

I can tell you my “Experian IdentityWorks” is not very sensitive. My subscription just expired, but searching my inbox, it was alerting very often. Last one I had with that subject was in 2017.

As you stated over on the BofA page, some of those inquiries are likely promotional and shouldn’t “count” against your score. But, is that true? I think some of those inquiries will also be done for linking external accounts or doing transfers.

You could dispute the excess inquires. Looks like it’s one per dispute. I haven’t tried and might be a waste of time.

Instructions here:
https://www.earlywarning.com/sites/default/files/2019-04/dispute_information.pdf

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 24, 2024 23:10
ieatdogfood
ieatdogfood (@guest_1898942)
August 25, 2024 01:11

It can be very confusing as many of the services have different tiers which adds to the convolution. One person may sign up/be offered the basic/free service while another person may sign up/be offered the premium service for any particular monitoring.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 25, 2024 01:21

Agreed. Curious… if you still have that alert from KeyBank/Laurel Road, did it say the source credit report?

I just found “Bank Account” alerts in my inbox from OnAlert and MyIDCare from my last Citi bank account opening. Source was Experian. (not EWS)

I know I had Chex frozen… so there was no Chex inquiry. Maybe the financial account monitoring I thought was EWS is just certain banks that trigger soft pulls of credit? But I am DEFINATLY not getting alerts for soft-pulls at other banks.

Anyway, I am done with this subject for now. Seems the only way to effectively monitor EWS is to pull it yourself.

ieatdogfood
ieatdogfood (@guest_1898950)
August 25, 2024 01:31

Decipher what you can? I’m not sure.

“Experian IdentityWorks detected a change to a financial account.

Alert Found: Bank Account Opening
Bank: KeyBank NA”

Sher
Sher (@guest_1899017)
August 25, 2024 07:30

You both are wonderful. Always enjoy seeing your thought processes. Thank you!

Anonymous
Anonymous (@guest_1886852)
August 2, 2024 12:27

As we all have noticed, EWS reports account status. Secifically, accounts usually go from “new” to “present” after approximately six months. Question: Will it improve your EWS score if you wait for the new-to-present transition before closing an account? In other words, does it make sense to wait for six months before closing new accounts?

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Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1887020)
August 2, 2024 16:20

Banks don’t share the EWS score (that I recall)… Or, how they calculate it.

It’s just a guessing game. Is it a good rule of thumb? Sure.

Anonymous
Anonymous (@guest_1887856)
August 4, 2024 13:44

My BoA declination notice dated 5/21/24 was based on the EWS “deposit account score” of 718. The notice also said that the range of possible scores is 495-1000 and the key factors affecting the score were [my comments in brackets]:

The number of different banks inquiring during the last year. [high]
The status of the relationship with the inquiring bank. [none]
The number of items returned in the last 60 days. [none]
The consumer’s transaction activity over the last 30 days is out of pattern when compared to the prior 180 days. [pretty much the same].

Do we know the EWS score cutoffs for varoius banks?

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
August 4, 2024 18:24

I don’t recall any other bank giving out an EWS score. Anonymous

Banks don’t release their criteria. They aren’t require to do so. You can ask a banker, and sometimes they will be loose lipped, but can you trust what they tell you?

Just like when you get a credit card denial, the bullet points don’t always perfectly match why you were REALLY denied.

Nothing there about age of newest accounts. I did find a person on Reddit that had this comment on their denial report:

The status of the relationship with the inquiring bank as compared to the age of the established relationship with any bank

I am guessing you just didn’t type the 2nd part of the comment.

Just FYI, specifically at BofA, some have had success opening in branch after being denied online YMMV.

Voyager
Voyager (@guest_1897370)
August 22, 2024 11:29

Are you required to provide the copy of ID or sort to request a report? P2 got denied for PNC based on EWS info.

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Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1897470)
August 22, 2024 14:04

Yes, it’s part of the request form to include your ID.

I don’t know if calling in to request a report emailed would change that.

SU
SU (@guest_1856839)
June 6, 2024 23:59

when you go to https://consumerservices.earlywarning.com and click on the Register and Send Files button, you need to enter <your email> for the Your Email field and [email protected] for the Recipient Email(s) field to register an account to upload your filled request form and your ID. the request form has instruction for this

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1825795)
April 4, 2024 13:10

An update to this comment: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/everything-youve-wanted-know-early-warning-services-ews/#comment-1657738

I recently discovered that although you cannot reset the password to the EWS submission portal linked on the disclosure request form if you have used it to request your report before, there is a way around it. (without having to call for support to reset the login)

If you have requested your EWS report to be sent to you via email in the past (year? years?) and still have that email, you can download the “Secure html file” attached, open it again, and access your old EWS report via the portal. Once you have that “Secure portal” email on your screen, you can hit the Reply button, clear all comments in the body, change the email subject, and attach your ID & new EWS Disclosure request form.

I recently did this for P1 and P2, and P2 had her report next day, and I had my report in about a week. Not sure why the disparity, but not having to call support and recreate the wheel was a huge plus.

As mangorunner stated too, you don’t have to print and scan the documents, and I used FoxIt Reader to do the signatures and editing of the PDF. For this recent request, I just changed the signed date on the old request form (because I had kept my last request form), changed the file name to something logical like “Disclosure-request-March-2024”, from the last time I made the EWS disclosure request.

mangorunner
mangorunner (@guest_1825905)
April 4, 2024 15:18

Dang, Gadget 🕵️, that is an awesome tip to backdoor into the portal. Love it!

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Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1825908)
April 4, 2024 15:22

Yeah, I thought so too. But to be fair, it’s not a hack and we are still authenticating with a login/password. 🙂

Alex
Alex (@guest_1841164)
May 7, 2024 03:43

The first time I ordered my report back in 2019, and a week ago I ordered it again using the same email address. I didn’t try to login, I just created new account with the same email I used almost 5 years ago and it worked. But now, after a week, I tried to login and they don’t allow.

Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget - Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_1841230)
May 7, 2024 09:45

Creating an account is the same as logging in. It seems like their main login expires very quickly. The guy on the phone I spoke to said it’s a “security feature”. Pretty silly if you ask me. Gives him something to do, I guess.

You will have to call and they can reset the password/unlock it. Then you will upload the request form using their email portal.

Once they email you the report link, save that email. You can use the steps I mentioned above to request a new report potentially years down the road. Alex

Karl
Karl (@guest_1881557)
July 24, 2024 17:15

TY! This is an awesome discovery and it worked for me too.

I received two messages:

  1. a copy of my own request almost instantly
  2. my full file disclosure 10 days later

The previous disclosure I responded to was from 13 months earlier.

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
September 11, 2024 06:07

Still works! Just did this again this month… took just over a week to get the EWS Report file (9 calendar days).

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_1917249)
September 22, 2024 17:27

I tried it today with an email with the subject “Early Warning File Disclosure” dated March 13, 2024. (I think those are the emails you were referencing? No other saved EWS email that I have seems to make sense in this context.)

Opened the “SecureMessageAtt.html” attachment > Click to read message > Login

Tried to login and got this error:

“Key Expired
The key for this message has expired. You may not decrypt it. For assistance, please contact Early Warning Services at 877-851-3463..”

Maybe I used the wrong type of email – or don’t have the right type of email – or goofed up somewhere else.

Gadget 🕵️

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
September 22, 2024 18:04

Yes, that’s the correct file. You save it to your computer, then open it. However, it looks like they are setting expiration dates on the new Early Warning email messages. I have older ones with no expiration date. The older EWS email says:

“To read it, open the attachment.”

The newer emails say:

“Click here by 2024-10-16 07:59 MST to read your message.
After that, open the attachment.”

So, only if you are an email hoarder like me, you can do my trick. Sorry… 🙁

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_1917276)
September 22, 2024 18:17

I’m an email hoarder, too. And hot-diggity-dog, one from March 2022 worked! THANKS, Gadget 🕵️!

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
September 22, 2024 18:22

Once logged in, if you checkmark “Send me a copy”, I think that will send a non-expiring email file… so you will have a more current one to hoard. NP, mangorunner!

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_1815404)
March 17, 2024 15:20

I arranged the list of FIs that provided ACH transaction data on my EWS report that appear in my below comment in ABC order to make it easier for everyone to read.

Ally
Arizona FCU
Bank of America
BBVA (Compass Bank)
Capital One
Chase
Citi
Comerica
FNBO
HSBC
Marcus (Goldman Sachs)
Monifi (MidFirst Bank)
Santander
Truist
Wells Fargo

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_1815376)
March 17, 2024 14:57

I requested my EWS report for the 1st time in years. I just reviewed it and the following FIs report ACH transaction data. This “feature” annoys me but maybe it doesn’t bother any of you.

It’s not in ABC order because I pulled it in order from the beginning of the report through the end.

Chase
Truist
MidFirst Bank (probably Monifi)
Bank of America
Wells Fargo
Compass Bank (probably BBVA)
FNBO
Santander
Citi
Ally
Arizona FCU
Capital One
Comerica
HSBC
Goldman Sachs (probably Marcus)

Matt A
Matt A (@guest_1765620)
December 26, 2023 22:10

Anyone having issues with fidelity making inquires like every few weeks? I have had 6+ in the past 3 months. I am thinking that whenever you “link” an account with plaid they pull EWS. US Bank and Citi are doing similar things too.

Mike 🔗
Mike 🔗 (@guest_1740199)
November 20, 2023 00:52

Has anybody noticed that their EWS report is sometimes missing a bunch of accounts between reports? Meaning, they show up one report 1, disappear on report 2, are back on report 3.

I received a somewhat thin file last time around, which I know is missing a bunch of stuff, not just accounts that were on there previously, but also new accounts from banks I know report.

Would be nice if my current report is what banks are seeing 🙂

Jon
Jon (@guest_1723643)
October 26, 2023 11:21

Submitted my request on 10/18 via FAX and received the report via Email on 10/26. My detailed report was only 17 pages long and didn’t include a “score” that a letter from Capitol One stated was their reason for denying my new account application.

Half of my inquires were from “ADP, LLC – MASWFN via GIACT SERVICES” – not sure what that is.

mangorunner
mangorunner (@guest_1706102)
September 29, 2023 23:03

Do EWS inquiries fall off the report after a certain period of time in the same manner that Chex inquiries fall off after 3 years, and credit report inquiries after 2 years? Thanks!

mangorunner
mangorunner (@guest_1740495)
November 20, 2023 13:30

Thanks, Mike !