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seant
seant (@guest_2031880)
March 26, 2025 16:00

for the BMO Harris Business account, I was informed by a representative that daily limit for external ACH transfers can be up to $25,000 and monthly limit of $50,000. Found that surprisingly convenient because i’m about to tx my whole 25k out for the bonus they have running currently!

person
person (@guest_2028490)
March 21, 2025 20:19

I just had my ally bank account suspended again for at least the 3rd, maybe 4th time (I’ve lost count, it could be more) in the past 6 mos. They state each time it’s due to higher than usual transactions or an external account being added (I stick around the 20 external account max).

Transaction numbers over the past several weeks:
1 week: 8 transfers (in/out)
2 weeks: 14 transfers
1 month: 26 transfers

I think I’ve only added 1 external account in the past week, but can’t currently look at linked accounts as it always take longer to see that for whatever reason.

I was already planning on moving my hub to cit, but this just solidifies that choice.

Ben N.
Ben N. (@guest_2028536)
March 21, 2025 21:22

Good thing I closed account not because of that but because of other reason.

Ben N.
Ben N. (@guest_2023275)
March 14, 2025 21:42

Robinhood just sent me email that my daily transfer deposit limit went increased from $150,000 to $200,000.

Idahoan
Idahoan (@guest_2018215)
March 6, 2025 18:36

What are some good options for a hub account with a decent APY?
Just got rejected twice from LCB 🙁

TyrannicalDuncery
TyrannicalDuncery (@guest_2007372)
February 18, 2025 20:40

I might take the risk and open Schwab checking. Any idea how many new accounts on Chex is too many? Any decline/shutdown/approval DPs and what your Chex looked like at the time?

Ben N.
Ben N. (@guest_2008724)
February 20, 2025 14:31
TyrannicalDuncery
TyrannicalDuncery (@guest_2009043)
February 20, 2025 20:12

Thanks! Someone on reddit said they got killed with 3/24.

Ben N.
Ben N. (@guest_2009104)
February 20, 2025 21:45

Probably because they used to hard pull on Equifax when applying the checking account with them before they stopped that few years ago. Could be based on credit report.

Jon
Jon (@guest_2003407)
February 12, 2025 21:21

Been using UFB Direct/Axos Bank but now push takes an extra business day and pull now has an up to 5 day hold

Ash
Ash (@guest_2002971)
February 12, 2025 03:26

Sofi has been upping the game lately.

Physical Checkbook option.Early paycheck.1% Foreign withdrawal fee (Used it at Mexico few times).Zelle option.ATM Cash withdrawal through AllPoint tie-up.Good HYSA rates.

Komma
Komma (@guest_2007737)
February 19, 2025 12:25

Unless SoFi removed their 4 account limit for linked accounts, it’s not a good hub.

Novacat05
Novacat05 (@guest_2023298)
March 14, 2025 22:18

4+ year customer and they dropped my same day availability to $1k(from $2k) recently and have two-factor authentication permanently enabled with no way to disable, yet P2 doesn’t need it. Plus 3.8% now, when it’s easy to find 4.2% elsewhere, I’m a little miffed at them recently.

Penny
Penny (@guest_1978779)
January 3, 2025 21:31

CFG has a min of $10 for ACH transfers

1speedgo
1speedgo (@guest_1977042)
December 31, 2024 12:38

Best hub account(s) for 2025? I’m leaning toward Ally or Alliant since hearing about Fidelity’s possible 3 week holds.

Autumn
Autumn (@guest_1989606)
January 22, 2025 01:51

Alliant closed my account for no reason.

Ally doesn’t let me log in while connected to a VPN.

Fidelity.. yeah fucking 3 weeks+ holds. I was using Fidelity the last few years. I’ve had enough though.

Any other suggestions anyone?

Dealgamer
Dealgamer (@guest_1995376)
February 1, 2025 11:14

Schwab seems pretty decent, I’ve heard there’s a random lifetime limit for accounts linked, but should be usable until then. I’ve used them as my hub account a lot and never had any major complaints (though I wish it earned more interest automatically like Fidelity)

Bertrand
Bertrand (@guest_1998559)
February 5, 2025 11:28

Be careful opening a checking account with Schwab . They’re known to shut down people with checking accounts who have lots of Chex inquiries. And they close all accounts not just the checking. If you have just brokerage accounts with them, you’re safe.

Dealgamer
Dealgamer (@guest_2000179)
February 7, 2025 15:07

Ah I didn’t know that, I’ve had mine for years now and it’s been my primary checking for much of that. I don’t see any soft pulls on my chex either so I don’t think they’ve checked in years.

Dealgamer
Dealgamer (@guest_1976121)
December 29, 2024 02:32

Since I think people here are more savvy than most places-

What’s your main hub account/personal account and why?

Diego
Diego (@guest_1976916)
December 31, 2024 01:24

It’s been Fidelity for me for 4+ years, but a recent change has me thinking about a switch.

Pros:

  • Same-day ACH transfers until at least 1100 Pacific Time, sometimes as late as 1300 PT
  • Push out 100k/day, pull in 250k/day, no weekly or monthly limits
  • Free domestic wires, receiving AND sending, up to 1M/day
  • 40+ simultaneous connected banks supported (probably unlimited)
  • Checkwriting upon request, with free check printing
  • Debit card upon request
  • Cash can be held in money market mutual fund SPAXX (“core position”)

Cons:

  • Some people have experienced very long hold times on pulled funds (see comments below). I have never had a hold of more than 3-4 days, and not more than 1 day since the first year of my account.
  • Recently they introduced Finicity, a Plaid-like service for linking external banks, but with a MUCH smaller roster of supported institutions. In theory, you can still decline to use Finicity and use the trial deposit method. However, three times lately this has returned the following error message: “We tried to link your bank using your account and routing number, but need more information to verify your account.” And apparently, the only way to give them the information they want is… logging in with Finicity.
mangorunner
mangorunner (@guest_1977253)
January 1, 2025 02:43

I also use Fidelity and hold cash in SPRXX, which must be manually purchased but like SPAXX, autoliquidates.
https://www.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/mutual-fund-spotlights/money-market-funds

Diego
Diego (@guest_1989624)
January 22, 2025 03:10

Thanks to the Fidelity subreddit, I was able to find the truly manual method of linking a bank account. It worked for Zynlo, with a processing time of 5-6 days.

Fill out this form: https://www.fidelity.com/bin-public/060_www_fidelity_com/documents/electronic-funds-transfer-and-bank-wire.pdf

And upload it here: http://fidelity.com/upload-EFT

Komma
Komma (@guest_2007743)
February 19, 2025 12:27

That’s a bit of a convoluted process though.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2007864)
February 19, 2025 15:13

I recently had to go through a similar, convoluted paper-process for Schwab. Took 5 business days, but far better than not being able to link at all.
https://www.doctorofcredit.com/il-wi-mn-in-az-fl-ks-mo-bmo-harris-350-checking-300-savings-bonus/#comment-2001209

Diego
Diego (@guest_2009926)
February 22, 2025 04:26

Agreed, it is annoying, but it’s also a one-time hassle per bank.

The ability to move large amounts same-day is very hard to come by, and it’s the main reason I’m sticking with Fidelity. SoFi can do it, but they clearly don’t want people using them as a hub, as their maximum is 5 linked banks.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2017143)
March 5, 2025 13:28

Been experiencing the problem with linking accounts at Fidelity and they no longer let you either by finicity or test deposits so have to do the paper route if I want to remain with Fidelity.

Problem is, one of the requirements I see is “You will need to attach a voided check, deposit slip, or bank statement with the account number” in order to use the paper method.

Have you figured a way to go about this when the account is brand new and there is no check (not ordered), deposit slip (not available) or bank statement (none available yet) since it is a new account?

Want to setup quick direct deposits for bonus purposes and waiting a month for a statement isn’t something I want to wait for.

Diego mangorunner

JD
JD (@guest_2017176)
March 5, 2025 14:08

Search around and see if they have pre-filled direct deposit forms, or account verification/statement of ownership letters. Anything that shows the FI, your name, and rtn/acct # should work, maybe even a screenshot.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2017183)
March 5, 2025 14:23
  JD

Thanks, will check that out.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2017212)
March 5, 2025 14:55

Agree with JD. Also, I always wait a full week before attempting linkage. Many banks/financial institutions don’t recognize others in those first few days, resulting in errors that seem to be impossible to correct, once they occur.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2017272)
March 5, 2025 16:11

I agree mangorunner but looks like Fidelity has changed their procedures on linking banks now. This is the response I got when chatting with them:

“Due to a spike in fraud attempts across brokerage and banking institution, certain banks are no longer sharing information with third party services such as Finicity (like Chase and PNC). When this happens a paper form must be filled out instead”.

“Even with entering the account and routing information, we often have to digitally verify this information and request access to the account information from both you, and the bank. Since we are not able to do that, we have to use the form instead”.

These banks that I’ve recently attempted, including Chase, PNC and Live Oak have all been linked by me before December 2024 and both Chase and Live Oak are currently still in my Fidelity account. These new attempts to link are with new account numbers so really don’t see what the problem is with linking them.

Looks like no way around it for now as they have taken a hardened approach on this.

Shirley
Shirley (@guest_2017309)
March 5, 2025 17:06

I’ve experienced the same thing with Fidelity though have seen others on this site that have been able to setup banks from within Fidelity so maybe not all banks are affected by this (wish there were a list available instead of hit or miss).

I also find it ironic that I was able to link to Fidelity from Live Oak using their third party service when Fidelity wouldn’t allow linking to Live Oak using their third party service (or test deposits).

Looney
Looney (@guest_2017391)
March 5, 2025 18:11

Yeah and I’ve seen in the PNC post where a number of people have linked Fidelity, don’t think they all did it by paper though would be interesting to find that out.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2019409)
March 8, 2025 16:24

I linked an external US Bank account to my Fidelity CMA today in about a minute, without any hiccups. I selected “Enter my bank information on my own” (rather than using Finicity).

I waited a full eight days after opening the US Bank account before attempting to link. I learned that trick from Gadget and I really think that is the ticket to success. Once you get an error message from Fidelity, Schwab, etc. (because you tried to link too early), it seems impossible to undo. Looney

Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗
Gadget 🕵️‍♂️ Bank Bonus Geek 🔗 (@guest_2019415)
March 8, 2025 16:31

8 days? You savage! How could you resist?

That’s a good practice at Treasury Direct too. 6 days was ok, IME.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2019431)
March 8, 2025 16:55

So mangorunner you think the key might be to wait at least a week after opening a new account before trying to link it from Fidelity?

Interesting idea, guess I’ll try it the next time I open an account.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2019440)
March 8, 2025 17:13

Yeah, and I mentioned it in my previous comment, too (#2017212), Looney.

Lesson from the GOAT: https://www.doctorofcredit.com/skyone-federal-credit-union-300-checking-100-savings-bonus/#comment-1525030

Looney
Looney (@guest_2019630)
March 9, 2025 10:45

mangorunner Decided to test your theory with the Chime account I opened two weeks ago using the test deposit method and it failed also, gave me the same message I received when trying with accounts after only a day from opening:

We tried to link your bank using your account and routing number, but need more information to verify your account. Please review the options below to complete linking your bank, or to send money using an alternative method”.

I had been able to add the Chime account to Fidelity I had last year, so know it used to be possible (they used Stride bank last year while this year it is with Bancorp though don’t see why that would matter).

Anyways, if you come up with any other ideas, I’d be interested in hearing them.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2019631)
March 9, 2025 10:52

Looney,

The bank changing for Chime could certainly make a difference in being able to link it or not as each bank has its own routing #.

BTW, several of us had a chat that began with my comment here that might be of interest to you: #2017787 . Both Ben N. and Frugal mentioned possible options to overcome the predicament that you are in.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2019658)
March 9, 2025 11:44

Eric 🔗 I did see those comments and was going to give that a try next.

Just tried it using PNC and Chime (both failed before) and this time I got almost all the way through when I encountered this:

“We’re sorry, there was a temporary system error. Please try again later”.

Don’t know if that is a momentary glitch or my bad luck again.

Update: Even tried an account I’ve never linked from Fidelity before and still got the same error message.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2019659)
March 9, 2025 11:52

That’s interesting. It could be that the system is down currently for everyone. I’m planning on trying to add Roger again later this week so I’ll play it by ear.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2019661)
March 9, 2025 11:54

Yeah, let me know so I’ll know if it is my account, I might be on someone’s list.

I’ll try again tomorrow.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2020108)
March 10, 2025 12:58

I just tried again today using someone else’s account instead of myself and got the same error message.

Here’s an interesting change. Yesterday I sent a rather nasty secure message to Fidelity asking why I can’t link external accounts while I know others who are still able to link the same accounts.

Today when I tried linking to a Cap One checking account that I’ve had for a while and never tried linking with Fidelity before, it linked with Finicity without a problem.

I then tried PNC again using Finicity and it said service unavailable so failed, but when I went the test deposit route, it linked immediately without even sending test deposits unlike the last times I tried with PNC.

Don’t know if my message caused the change but for now, seems to be working for me again. Eric 🔗 mangorunner and JD (too many JD’s to find the correct one who commented).

JD
JD (@guest_2020134)
March 10, 2025 13:38

How far did you get trying to use Finicity with PNC before it failed? I just tested it and was able to login and get to the point where I select which accounts to share before I bailed.

See my comment below to understand why PNC instantly linked today when you tried test deposits.

Looney
Looney (@guest_2020219)
March 10, 2025 15:22
  JD

The log in screen and that was right after I used Finicity to login to Cap One successfully.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2020147)
March 10, 2025 13:52

Looney,

See my comment here for instructions on how to tag so you don’t run into that “JD” issue in the future: #2007558 .

However, I have it on good authority that the real JD wouldn’t have been emailed no matter which one you chose. 😉

Looney
Looney (@guest_2020222)
March 10, 2025 15:26

Thanks, wondered how that was done.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2020289)
March 10, 2025 17:17

Excellent! “it linked immediately without even sending test deposits” <= this is what I have experienced recently linking several external accounts after giving each a good, full week before trying.

mangorunner 🔗
mangorunner 🔗 (@guest_2019671)
March 9, 2025 12:33

It’s been a short while, but I linked Chime as an external to Fidelity last July 2024. As with US Bank, I selected to enter my own information and microdeposits were never required. I used Routing Number 031101279.

Within the original authorization session, Fidelity required me to “upload a bank document to link your bank account”. I uploaded Chime’s “direct deposit enrollment form”. Chime was linked the next morning.

I hope you can figure out what is going on. Good luck!

Looney
Looney (@guest_2019684)
March 9, 2025 13:18

That’s the same routing number to Chime I tried today and failed (Bancorp) while last year when I was able to link Chime it was to Stride bank with a different routing number, so obviously the bank doesn’t matter with what is going on (unless something changed with Bancorp since then).

JD
JD (@guest_2019995)
March 10, 2025 08:48

The bank does matter, since if they don’t report accounts to EWS then Fidelity most likely will never auto-link using rtn/acct and you’ll have to use Finicity or upload docs. The reason for waiting a week or so before linking to new accounts in this specific case is because FIs can take up to a week after opening to report your new account.
Fidelity changed their link procedures twice last year. Over the summer they started asking for additional documents like mango described above if they can’t verify your account in EWS, but then in the fall they scrapped that and now just tell you to use Finicity as you’re experiencing.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2019998)
March 10, 2025 08:52
  JD

So are you saying that any FIs that report the new account to EWS can still be added to Fidelity the easy way but all others can’t? I doubt that Roger reports to EWS so that’s probably why I wasn’t able to add it. I’ll still try once more later this week.

JD
JD (@guest_2020000)
March 10, 2025 08:57

You replied before I could add this, lol:

ETA: some recent DPs, I’ve added chase, pnc, cap1 and usb accounts instantly using the digits, but paypal balance which uses the same bancorp rtn as your chime fails

So yeah that would be my guess based on my (limited) experience.

Eric 🔗
Eric 🔗 (@guest_2020002)
March 10, 2025 09:02
  JD

I won’t apologize for being so quick! 😀

Novacat05
Novacat05 (@guest_2020854)
March 11, 2025 16:25

Been using Fidelity as my higher value hub for a few months now. I opened a CMA years ago but didn’t really use it until recently. I never experienced 3+ week hold times last fall, and everything I pull in now is only subject to a 2 day hold, i.e initiate the pull on a Monday, all the funds are available on Wednesday, which is decent. Same day pushes up to $100k and very high limits. I have probably 12-15 accounts linked. One negative is since it’s only in my name, I can only push to accounts in P2’s name, you cannot pull. And as discussed here, no more trial deposits. I did not know about the manual form, that is great to know. Yes wires are free, but they have some weird thing since they are not a bank and you have to use the information for some other named bank, not as straightforward when my only option to close out a CIBC CD was a wire, so I had it sent to SoFi(which has free incoming wires)

I use Sofi sometimes as well, but their hold times are much worse, only $2k available same day, next $3k available in like 2 days, and the rest in like 4 days(after 9AM EST). Sometimes I have to use P2’s Sofi to pull large amounts out after completing a savings bonus, since I can’t pull into Fidelity. I am limited to 5 external accounts which is annoying.

Used to use Ally as a hub but their black box algorithm was infuriating, sometimes one day sometimes 3 full business days. Unacceptable. Then I was using Alliant but they banned me after 2 years in their yearly February purge of random users. I got a nasty letter in the mail claiming I was using it for commercial activity(I was not), then got the boot the following Feb.

I use Star One CU now as an everyday hub for average transactions(<$1k), with a joint account for me and P2. They are only available in Northern CA and employees of some companies in the Sunnyvale area. Same day transfers and can link dozens of banks, but they do have weekly limits on transaction amounts and numbers, and one system for pushes only and another antiquated system straight out of 1998 for pushes/pulls each with separate limits.

Dealgamer
Dealgamer (@guest_2024737)
March 17, 2025 16:23

Thank you for the info! I have Fidelity and use them sometimes too. Though the changes with how things link lately has been annoying, and it would be nice to have a backup. I’ve looked into it more since my original comment, and I’m thinking Wealthfront looks like a good alternative. Going to stick with Fidelity for now, but if account linking becomes too annoying I’ll switch.