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robertw
robertw (@guest_1938222)
October 25, 2024 10:06

These sorts of gimmicks never last long or get much traction. For those who had this a yr or more and made a few extra bucks, thats great. Move it out.

Scott S
Scott S (@guest_1937768)
October 24, 2024 15:04

Did anyone else get an email that they are “discontinuing our Indexed Savings account and will automatically transition your account to a High-Yield Savings account”?

Scott S
Scott S (@guest_1937772)
October 24, 2024 15:07

For the first time since they established the account, the 3-month T-bill rate is consistently and appreciably below the 1-month T-bill rate. COINCIDENCE???

Jack
Jack (@guest_1937875)
October 24, 2024 17:29

I THINK NOT!!!

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1937776)
October 24, 2024 15:10

Scott S Yep – just got the email. Too bad they are discontinuing this account. It was nice while it lasted!

Kai
Kai (@guest_1937919)
October 24, 2024 18:10

Why? Isn’t their HYSA 5% as well?

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1937968)
October 24, 2024 19:53

Kai I assume you didn’t have this account. Since Jun of 2023, or over the last 17 months, including the current month, the average APY/APR for the Ivy Index account was
5.62%/5.468%. 

That was a pretty sweet average.  This account was my number 3 in interest behind:

Superior Choice Credit Union- 7.25%APY/7% APR
Primis Novus – 6% APY/5.83% APR 

Craig
Craig (@guest_1938136)
October 25, 2024 05:38

Where’s the Superior Choice account you’re referring to? I can’t find it on their website.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1938180)
October 25, 2024 08:31

Craig Sorry, I should have said it wasn’t offered anymore. It’s nice, but they only pay 7.25% on the first $7K. Every little bit helps.

A1
A1 (@guest_1937777)
October 24, 2024 15:13

Yep, the index account will be gone on 11/25/24. It would have been nice if they had kept it going considering rates are dropping, but at least they didn’t terminate it when rates were high.

Beautiful
Beautiful (@guest_1937868)
October 24, 2024 17:24
  A1

true

FRD
FRD (@guest_1937792)
October 24, 2024 15:34

Yeah, looks like this one’s over. It was a good run.

payyoutuesday
payyoutuesday (@guest_1937827)
October 24, 2024 16:33

Are we staying or going? The Ivy HYSA 5.00% APY beats my money market mutual funds, but DoC’s HYSA list still shows banks with higher yields. The question is: Will they stay near the top of the list? One great thing about the Indexed Savings was not having to chase yields from account to account. And not having to make umpteen debit purchases, etc. to get a good rate. What will you do now?

va1984
va1984 (@guest_1937764)
October 24, 2024 15:03

that’s it. Shutting down on Nov 25. It’s been an excellent ride, though.

KyleC
KyleC (@guest_1933416)
October 16, 2024 19:04

It looks the APY for November will be 5.053%

Beautiful
Beautiful (@guest_1937870)
October 24, 2024 17:25

until Nov. 25

payyoutuesday
payyoutuesday (@guest_1912967)
September 16, 2024 19:06

October 1st: 5.11% APR / 5.242% APY

DP719
DP719 (@guest_1916785)
September 21, 2024 11:46

Considering that the latest one month Treasury rate is only 4.87%, the 5.11% APR/5.242% APY for Ivy Indexed Savings in October is not bad at all. Of course, if Ivy does not lower its regular HYS on October 1 but stays at 5.30% APY, that’s even better – every penny counts!

A1
A1 (@guest_1910626)
September 12, 2024 17:40

Looking like a big drop for October.

5.18 as of 9/12. 4 more days to go…

Summer
Summer (@guest_1910893)
September 13, 2024 00:36
  A1

yikes.. where is everyone moving their funds to after Ivy?

Scott S
Scott S (@guest_1911213)
September 13, 2024 13:33

Nowhere. We seem to be entering an environment of moderately-high, but declining, interest rates. So I expect that, at any given moment, there will be a few HYSAs with a higher APY than this index-linked account. But all of these other HYSAs can have their APY cut by an arbitrarily large amount. So I expect that the collection of HYSAs with an APY higher than that of the Ivy Indexed account will be a rotating “cast.” I’d rather not chase the highest APY.

Summer
Summer (@guest_1894014)
August 16, 2024 11:54

When do you guys anticipate the rate will start declining? just curious

payyoutuesday
payyoutuesday (@guest_1894021)
August 16, 2024 12:05

Currently, CME Fedwatch says there’s a 76.5% chance that the Federal Reserve will cut the federal funds rate by 25 basis points and a 23.5% chance of a 50 bp cut. I expect the 1-month T-bill will generally follow as the Fed cuts rates.

Summer
Summer (@guest_1894030)
August 16, 2024 12:23

thanks! is that for the FED meeting end of Sept?

payyoutuesday
payyoutuesday (@guest_1894158)
August 16, 2024 15:18

Yes, I should have said that!

DP719
DP719 (@guest_1893883)
August 16, 2024 09:10

Absolutely! I was also checking the rate in the past few days and was pleasantly surprised by the jump which I would even call big (though largely meaningless like you said).

Edit: Wrote this in the wrong place. Was responding to PaulinTexas/lohengrin.

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1893683)
August 15, 2024 20:20

Good News!

Sep 1st – 5.53% APR / 5.685% APY

lohengrin
lohengrin (@guest_1893778)
August 16, 2024 00:10

I know it’s largely meaningless, but it sure was nice to see that tiny jump today from the .48/.49 of the last 2 days, wasn’t it?

Todd B.
Todd B. (@guest_1893791)
August 16, 2024 00:42

Thank you PaulinTexas for posting the rate every month.

Summer
Summer (@guest_1877029)
July 18, 2024 13:10

I don’t know how this stuff works.

What happens when the FED starts lowing interest rates later this year and consequently banks lower their interest rate. Since this Ivy account is tied to treasuries? Does that mean the rate on this account will start to decline too? Thanks for any insight into this.. I’m a newb

PaulinTexas
PaulinTexas (@guest_1877038)
July 18, 2024 13:23

Summer Yes, but not at the same rate. The Ivy Index should dip above/below the Feds target rate. The last year has been pretty steady with the rates falling between 5.57% – 5.45% (last month). It will be a bumpy ride on the way down.

Scott S
Scott S (@guest_1885096)
July 31, 2024 06:05

The Fed funds rate set by the FOMC is, explicitly, only the rate that banks lend to each other. The interest rate of a 1-month T-bill, like any other security, is “set” by the buyers and sellers in the market. The 1-month t-bill is the shortest duration Treasury, so it almost always “follows” the Fed funds rate the closest. This savings account has an interest rate explicitly tied to the going interest rate of this ubiquitous short-term debt security. In contrast, almost every bank deposit account has an interest rate which is unilaterally set by its financial institution, and at most the interest rate that they decide is influenced by current interest rates for short-term debt securities.