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jcp
jcp (@guest_1535662)
January 17, 2023 09:58

I got this targeted letter https://ibb.co/XSmPpzp which offers up to $300 statement credit if you use PNC Merchant Services. Has anyone tried this? Is it worth it?

FJBiden
FJBiden (@guest_1453588)
September 27, 2022 16:47

Sound advice, many thanks.

Frugal Nellie, aka Lela
Frugal Nellie, aka Lela (@guest_908272)
February 13, 2020 22:26

I did this once for a BofA biz promo that did not require more than a $1 use of the merchant services account. It was an extra $500 if I set up the merchant services. I had a reasonable reason to add cc payment capabilities to a small home laundry business I was doing at the time, but really never used it for a customer. It was worth all the hoops and hassles, but I would say only for whatever you value maybe 15-20 hours labor at. My accout said it was at 1.9% but had some variation based on kind of card run, as in, cards with benefits cost me more. I ran a sample $100 on a Visa “SIgnature” card: Not “Infinite” or “plain”, either Chase or Cap One, can’t recall, and found my actual fees were something atrocious like 5%, that made MSing directly with cc not worthwhile. Didn’t try the gift card/debit card unload. Great learning experience. Staff clearly made my “business” work for their terms, even suggested my expected income be much greater than I was proposing, saying that they were thinking my business would “grow”, clearly to help me qualify. Nice people!

But just for the bonus it can be worthwhile, depending on the deal.

Zalmy
Zalmy (@guest_579389)
April 9, 2018 11:30

Why would you create a tax liability? Your tax liability is revenue minus expenses. Surely it’s easy to see that your revenue minus expenses is only the percentage you earn/charge others for swiping..

Bob
Bob (@guest_584878)
April 21, 2018 20:55

Can you explain this further? The scenario of using a merchant account as a closed loop MS by having friends swipe their cards through your terminal and then routing the money back to them via another channel would result in $50k of revenue. How do you claim an equal amount of expenses to negate out the profit? This is all assuming a phantom business. I’m having trouble seeing what expenses you could claim without flat out lying.

Yoni
Yoni (@guest_595370)
May 16, 2018 10:43

Couple issues I can see,

1.) The bank may reclassify you as a money services. Most likely close your account and possibly freeze your funds for 90 days before returning them.

2) I’d your with a TBYF bank and running cards through thier merchant services and all your running are VGC/MGC PPD from Meta/ USB/MYV, etc. Or just running the same per/biz card even if not cycling your CL it will be an outlier esp if it’s a new account both bank and MS.

They can decode the type and issue front the BIN -1st 6 digits of the card.

It could look like ML and you get a deeper investigation.

Yoni
Yoni (@guest_595379)
May 16, 2018 11:01

That said for non-MS some TBTF bank MS fees and prices have gotten better to compete with other mobile MS payment providsrs Square, PP etc. Some do have monthly fees but also provide 24hr live phone reps (vs Square -e-mail only). As a small biz owner if their is an issue with payment/funds I much rather handle in branch or on the phone than drawn out emails.

BofA has fractionally lower fees, a free rebated reader for chip/SP/AP/and other contactless payments that uses BT and is $59 or FAR of you process $1,500 in first 60/90 days.

Revil
Revil (@guest_427066)
June 25, 2017 13:01

The one time I even thought about considering this was for GC liquidation. If you get merchant services on an Interchange+ pricing plan and only run regulated cards as debit, the fee works out to something in between a WU/MG MO and PO MO.

Superchurn
Superchurn (@guest_578262)
April 5, 2018 13:06

interesting…so one could theoretically buy say 100 $500 VGC’s and run them through it, hitting some serious MSR on some sweet CC bonuses, AND doing something like the $5000 Key Bank bank bonus.

I don’t know enough about the merchant services fees involved to calculate the profit, but its tempting now

Zalmy
Zalmy (@guest_579386)
April 9, 2018 11:28

See my comment on the Keybank thread

MickeyMouse
MickeyMouse (@guest_601943)
June 3, 2018 12:51

Tried finding the Keybank thread but couldn’t 🙁 looking to do the same thing as this poster if possible.

Just found some processors only 0.30% + $0.10 for Debit and low monthly fee.

Max
Max (@guest_426200)
June 23, 2017 11:08

>running up hundreds of thousands in credit card payments to yourself,

Why would you do this? The cashback you’d get from credit cards would be much less than the interchange fees, wouldn’t they? Most requirements I’ve seen for merchant services are “accept two payments” or something like that. Surely you can get two of your friends to pay you a dollar each.

David T
David T (@guest_426144)
June 23, 2017 09:10

I actually work in merchant services. Something else to consider is that they usually come with a time commitment before you can close the account and an early termination fee of several hundred dollars.