Update 3/2/25: American Express sending out an email that they will no longer be a payee on Paypal Bill Pay as of 4/1/25 (ht reader E.A.)
Update 2/15/24: Tons of payees that people were using got removed yesterday from the Paypal Bill Pay system.
Update 2/9/23: Multiple Reddit reports (1, 2) talk about an issue whereby Paypal changes the payment method after the fact to your bank. YMMV
Update 1/16/23: a lot of people are experiencing very delayed payments, myself included, so use this option with caution.
Original Post:
Sometimes there are things staring us in the face that we just don’t notice. I learned this week about Paypal Bill Pay. (Maybe everyone already knows about this?)
Paypal Bill Pay allows paying utilities, insurance, phone bills and more directly from your Paypal account with all of the regular payment methods allowed by Paypal. Vendors found in the Paypal Bill Pay system will be paid via ACH bank payment.
Most insurance companies and utilities likely allow direct credit card payments, so this bill pay system might not be useful for most people since you can pay with a credit card, regardless.
For years I’ve been paying a large monthly insurance bill with bank ACH payment since they don’t allow card payments. This week, I added the bill to Paypal Bill Pay and sent a $1 payment with my saved credit card as the payment method. Two days later the payment is being reflected on my insurance company balance.
You can also pay credit card and mortgage bills with Paypal Bill Pay, but for those you can only use bank or Paypal balance as the payment method.
Potential uses of Paypal Bill Pay:
- Bills such as insurances or utilities occasionally won’t accept credit card payments. Or they may charge a fee for card payment or they won’t accept AmEx cards or Visa gift cards. These might be payable with Paypal Bill Pay.
- Paypal is sometimes a bonus category on various cards, and Paypal Bill Pay is a nice way to use them.
A few notes:
- Paypal does not appear to allow splitting bills across multiple cards when using their Bill Pay service.
- There is a message on the payment screen that your Paypal balance is always used first. Be sure to transfer out any Paypal balance before making a payment if you want the payment to charge your card.
- Random interesting tidbit FWIW: I see that the category of the bill carries through to the card issuer when using Paypal Bill Pay. My insurance bill payment is showing “Merchant type – Insurance sales, underwriting and premiums.”
- Be sure to double check your payment method – there are many reports of Paypal switching the payment method afterward, see this Reddit thread.
Hat tip thefrugaltourist
Anyone else ever get an error saying something wrong and asking to contact credit card when trying to pay a Credit card using a saved bank account?
The funny thing is that I know nothing wrong with that card because 5 minutes later paid the same credit card using P2’s PayPal account
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You cheered me up and I agree F Paypal every which way 🙂
lol
If you are trying to add your Centerpoint (natural gas utility) and are getting stuck, you need to input your account number exactly as it is on your statement (including dashes) and the zip code of centerpoint exactly as it is on your statement (including the zip+4 if present), not YOUR zip code.
I see Comenity cards as a payee on PPBP. Have people had success paying off these cards that way?
Yes, I often pay my Bread Rewards Amex(Comenity) card this way and use my Primis Perks checking’s debit card as the payment method thru PPBP. I do earn the 50 cents from Primis (at least for now). Works with my Discover Card too.
Nice! Thanks a lot
What’s the point of paying amex with ppbp? pay with vgc?
Is this an end to the workaround to not have to pay the high% when paying federal taxes with an Amex business card?
At least we all made a lot from Carl telling us about it. Shame how it came to end!
Amex has been taken out since last week and there is no sign of coming back
Can anyone here cofirm if any debit card that works for any amount of cashback?
There are a few. Myfico has a thread. But it’s not going to be major players.
My Primis Perks debit card gives me the 50 cent reward each time I do a billpay through PayPal.
Are people still able to pay BofA Credit Cards using PPBP? I tried with multiple debit cards but the transaction is rejected. I’m able to pay other CCs with PPBP, and I see the transactions on my bank ledger (I see two transactions that cancel out), suggesting it’s not the debit card bank rejecting the transaction. Wondering if it’s just me or if it’s more widespread.
It seems intermittent. My first attempt to pay a BofA card with PPBP on the 22nd had the same problem, but a few hours it worked. BofA received the payment on the 23rd.
When it fails, what happens? Does it charge your payment source and then refund you?
Exactly. Took a few days to be refunded.
I made 2-3 payments and it worked but not seeing the benefit if no cashback
Great job! Did you make those payments all on the same day?
Have you been able to do any since then/
Almost every attempt of mine since mid-Jan was refunded (by BoA if you believe the transaction details). I’m pretty sure the payment itself is enough to trigger spend requirements despite the refund, at least for Affinity.
Yes refund works for affinity. Just be careful paypal does not shut your account down for too many refunds like this.
Gotcha, thanks for the warning, lol
I’m having problems paying BofA through PPBP today with two different funding sources. PayPal says that something went wrong, and immediately refunds me.
Is this what happened to you?
That is what has been happening to me for a while…when was the last time you successfully made a payment?
I made three in a row on 2/19; I fear I may have spooked BofA.
I was last able to use PPBP to pay for BofA on 2/25, payment posted on 2/26. Since then, every transaction is refunded. Tried different cards, readding BofA as a bill, nothing seems to work.
I even tried funding the payment from PP balance, still got returned…
Since Amex is soon to be removed, I’m assuming BofA will follow. Billpay still works for paying for my utilities though..
Hmm. strange. I was facing similar issues so searched the comments and found this
I get a message that the payment didnt got through and asks me to contact my CC
The funny thing is that I know nothing wrong with that CC because 5 minutes later paid the same credit card using P2’s PayPal account
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Is it possible that paying of a BofA CC is one time use now, per payment method?
One BofA payment being returned was enough for me not to want to try it again.
Thanks. I have a few PP accounts amongst the family from from way back and I saw that deal that gives $10 back so was trying these accounts, the same BoA or Citi card will work with 1 account and not with the other but the funny thing is that PP’s error message always blames the CC company 🙂
I gave up after a few attempts, dont like dealing with PP
I made two payments to BOA credit card on the 19th through Paypal bill pay, the second one got posted the same day, the first one still hasn’t showed up on BOA account as of today. Should I be worried? Should I contact Paypal or BOA card?
This happened before several times, and it is still happening once in a while.
“Update 1/16/23: a lot of people are experiencing very delayed payments, myself included, so use this option with caution.“
Basically the payment processor Paypal uses (e.g., Paymentus) messes up. Eventually the payment will arrive, but it may take as long as a few weeks in previous cases.
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Good to know. It looks like the Paypal payment processor messed up again. Two payments to the same biller in the same day, one arrived the next day, the other one is still in transit after days.